First of all, let me start off by saying that

[Kurt R]

First of all, let me start off by saying that OneNote is an excellent program when it comes to text handling. But I bought OneNote with the thought that I could put all my notes in one place -both text and ink. But after using it for a couple of months I am so frustrated by the inking capabiliites that I use Journal for ink and OneNote for text notes/research. For me, Microsoft does not have a "OneNote" solution. It's really a "TwoNote" solution.

And yes. I have tried Tablet Planner and Gobinder. OneNotes text handling capabilities are so superior that I simply refuse to jump.
Gobinder seem's the right track - it handles ink and text the way it should be handled. It, however, lacks many of the text features (outlining, cut and paste with URL, general feel)that I need/like.

Here's what I would like to see in the next release that for me, would turn "TwoNote" into a real "OneNote" solution.

1) Inking - this is the biggie. Gobinder seem's to be on the right track. You can write like normal people write without those crazy containers popping up all over... Containers are great for text, but they suck for ink. If it means sacrificing ink-outlining - so be it. If it's possible, perhaps make the inking with containers an option..

2) Add the print directly into OneNote functionality (Like Journal, Gobinder and Tablet Planner)


Thanks
Kurt

[lecco]

Hi Kurt,

I agree with your comment about onenote. I was hoping I could consolidate all my journal files into onenote, but the inking capability is very frustrating that I switched back to good old journal. you are right on the money about getting rid of those container for ink--they should create an option to turn it off at will. in addition to your suggestion I would like to add mine:

1) allow importing/exporting to and from journal files. As of right now, you can only use the copy and paste function to transfer ink, but the ink is being treated as an image whenever you crossover the platform.--totally useless.

2) enable "lasso" capability like in journal. This tool is one of the most useful tool when editing journal...resize any portion of the ink that you see fit, move any portion of text to your content.

3)autoshape, plus many other features from word. Since onenote is suppose to be the bread and butter of tabletpc, you need to make it as versatile as possible, allowing the stylis to be more important than the keyboard.

[Kurt R]

lecco;

Absolutely right about the lasso function - something I forgot.

A real OneNote (vs OneNote plus Journal that I call TwoNote) has POTENTIAL for the "killer application" for table PC users - if they make some changes in the handwriting/inking container nightmare.

If not a comptetitor will step in and product a true "Onenote" capable application....

Kurt

[rktech]

I wonder if anyone from MS is reading this thread ?

It seems as if it could be as simple as making Journal with a OneNote GUI...but then nothing ever seems to get done simply

[charles7926]

Someone mentioned this in another thread ( can't find it now ), The problem is that Journal is done by the Windows team and is part of Windows (Tablet Edition), much like Calc.exe, solitaire.exe, etc. OneNote is done by the Office team. Given MS's anti-trust legal problems, we are very unlikely to see any type of communication between these two products. The OneNote team may get a clue and add the Print To Feature, etc, but don't expect miracles.

On a brighter side, One Note is a v 1.0 product, and as the old joke goes, Microsoft never gets it right until v 3.0 anyway, so lets just hope for an upgrade soon.

Charles

[Noger]

quote:If it's possible, perhaps make the inking with containers an option..

Wonder what "Show note containers on page" under Tools/Options/Display does then ?

With some tweaking, it is easy to get OneNote to be more ink friendly, lots of threads about.

[wmadan]

Before you run to too many conclusions about OneNote, read Chris Pratley's blogs about it. Chris Prately is the program manager at Microsoft for Office and OneNote. He has a number of well written blogs about OneNote.

http://weblogs.asp.net/chris_pratley/

[iFly]

quote:Originally posted by Kurt R


First of all, let me start off by saying that OneNote is an excellent program when it comes to text handling. But I bought OneNote with the thought that I could put all my notes in one place -both text and ink. But after using it for a couple of months I am so frustrated by the inking capabiliites that I use Journal for ink and OneNote for text notes/research. For me, Microsoft does not have a "OneNote" solution. It's really a "TwoNote" solution.

And yes. I have tried Tablet Planner and Gobinder. OneNotes text handling capabilities are so superior that I simply refuse to jump.
Gobinder seem's the right track - it handles ink and text the way it should be handled. It, however, lacks many of the text features (outlining, cut and paste with URL, general feel)that I need/like.

Here's what I would like to see in the next release that for me, would turn "TwoNote" into a real "OneNote" solution.

1) Inking - this is the biggie. Gobinder seem's to be on the right track. You can write like normal people write without those crazy containers popping up all over... Containers are great for text, but they suck for ink. If it means sacrificing ink-outlining - so be it. If it's possible, perhaps make the inking with containers an option..

2) Add the print directly into OneNote functionality (Like Journal, Gobinder and Tablet Planner)


Thanks
Kurt



Hey you really crack me up with that twonote..
oh yeah.. it is really not a perfect product. we are waiting for the improvement ..do you hear that bill gate?

[Kurt R]

wmadam;

Yes I read Chris's blogs. Seem's to be very intelligent and dedicated. And yes, I think that OneNote is a fantasic concept and program. I use it all the time in my research. But as my buddy Phred, who uses his Toshiba M200 while tending a moonshine still in the backwoods of Alabama, said (about OneNote) - "the way them there Redmond boy's do handwritin just taint natural."

Hopefully in the next release handwriting will be more natural.

Kurt

[Noger]

quote:I use it all the time in my research.

Try having a look at more of the options, it really helps tune ON to your way of working. As I said above you can turn the ink containers off !