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    Wykyd Guest

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    Anyone check this program out?
    http://www.xthink.com/product.html]
    Imagine combining Journal with an insane calculator.

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    pkhuong Guest

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    Eh, Maple+TIP - cheaper, plus i don't have to reread my handwriting :). Well, assuming carets and parenthesis are recognized well.

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    love2lindy Guest

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    "cheaper..."

    Have you seen pricing on this yet? The ability to convert handwriting to LaTeX will be awesome!

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    pkhuong Guest

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    l2l:can't beat free :)

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    paradoxicalcat Guest

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    quote:Originally posted by pkhuong

    l2l:can't beat free :)
    I completely disagree. I find having to use TIP to input my equations into Maple one of the most upsetting parts of my day!!
    I can't wait to have a more intuitive way to use my tablet, and allow me to think like a physicist, not a programmer. Maple forces you to think like a programmer, how do you write x squared? is it x superscript 2, or x^2?? x^2 is programmer speak, and physicists think better when they can speak their own language.

    Just my 2cents on the issue.

    GO MATHJOURNAL!!! Wooohooo!!


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    pkhuong Guest

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    You already know my PoV re carets and Physicist/Mathematician/etc VS programmer(I'm a programmer, hehe). Still, would it be so hard to make a TIP clone with ~4 lines : 2 middle=normal script, others for subscript&superscript? Now, if it recognized multiple *scripts, i'd be very, very happy.

    Also, on LaTeX conversion: I've seen a few people complain of having to learn LaTeX/PS to have their papers "just right". Do you think the conversion will be perfect? I doubt. I'm very interested in how they will handle bold, italics, etc. :)

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    paradoxicalcat Guest

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    quote:Originally posted by pkhuong

    You already know my PoV re carets and Physicist/Mathematician/etc VS programmer(I'm a programmer, hehe). Still, would it be so hard to make a TIP clone with ~4 lines : 2 middle=normal script, others for subscript&superscript? Now, if it recognized multiple *scripts, i'd be very, very happy.
    What you say is true, if it were just carets that were the problem. But, to do an integration in Maple requires syntax that takes the math out of the problem.
    If I could just write an integration sign, write the upper and lower limits of integration in their super and sub-script respective places, and then write an equation inside the integration, and have a program that performs the integration and gives an answer or plots an answer....AWESOME.
    The same holds for differential equations, or better yet, SERIES of Partial differential equations... If I could write them on my tablet like I would on a chalkboard, and have the program interact and give me useful answers/graphs....that's pure HEAVEN. At least, to me it is, but I'm kind of strange anyway.

    <start long winded dreamy discussions>
    I believe that this could speed the realm of scientific understanding in ways unimaginable by even the most creative. Tablet PCs will change science, expediete scientific thought and process, which will give us a better understanding of the World/Cosmos/Universe.
    Imagine a chemist using a tablet to understand new drug therapies for cancer patients. (I know they already have 3-D simulations for this, but tablets are far more accessible).
    Imagine the way in which people who need to convey abstract thought will be able to pinpoint what it is they're thinking with a free-form interface. Tablets are sooo exciting, and I'm sure that everybody in academics will have one within 4 years. Exciting, I think.
    </spaceship has landed>

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    paradoxicalcat Guest

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    quote:Originally posted by pkhuong

    You already know my PoV re carets and Physicist/Mathematician/etc VS programmer(I'm a programmer, hehe). Still, would it be so hard to make a TIP clone with ~4 lines : 2 middle=normal script, others for subscript&superscript? Now, if it recognized multiple *scripts, i'd be very, very happy.
    What you say is true, if it were just carets that were the problem. But, to do an integration in Maple requires syntax that takes the math out of the problem.
    If I could just write an integration sign, write the upper and lower limits of integration in their super and sub-script respective places, and then write an equation inside the integration, and have a program that performs the integration and gives an answer or plots an answer....AWESOME.
    The same holds for differential equations, or better yet, SERIES of Partial differential equations... If I could write them on my tablet like I would on a chalkboard, and have the program interact and give me useful answers/graphs....that's pure HEAVEN. At least, to me it is, but I'm kind of strange anyway.

    <start long winded dreamy discussions>
    I believe that this could speed the realm of scientific understanding in ways unimaginable by even the most creative. Tablet PCs will change science, expediete scientific thought and process, which will give us a better understanding of the World/Cosmos/Universe.
    Imagine a chemist using a tablet to understand new drug therapies for cancer patients. (I know they already have 3-D simulations for this, but tablets are far more accessible).
    Imagine the way in which people who need to convey abstract thought will be able to pinpoint what it is they're thinking with a free-form interface. Tablets are sooo exciting, and I'm sure that everybody in academics will have one within 4 years. Exciting, I think.
    </spaceship has landed>

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    Wykyd Guest

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    Imagine a chemist using a tablet to understand new drug therapies for cancer patients. (I know they already have 3-D simulations for this, but tablets are far more accessible).
    I'm majoring in biochem, and the prime reason I'm getting a tablet is for this kind of work. Writing out 30+ atoms/structure is a horrible ordeal on paper, but doing so on a computer is much worse sometimes.
    And yes the main reason I like MathJournal is that I hate using Maple for actual math. I know how to use it, but I would rather not have to spend the extra time to debug things.

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    Wykyd Guest

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    quote:

    Imagine a chemist using a tablet to understand new drug therapies for cancer patients. (I know they already have 3-D simulations for this, but tablets are far more accessible).
    I'm majoring in biochem, and the prime reason I'm getting a tablet is for this kind of work. Writing out 30+ atoms/structure is a horrible ordeal on paper, but doing so on a computer is much worse sometimes.
    And yes the main reason I like MathJournal is that I hate using Maple for actual math. I know how to use it, but I would rather not have to spend the extra time to debug things.

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