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    My use of the TC1000 has trickled to a near halt, and I decided to try to revive my old system by installing Linux. I don't know if Ubuntu is the best package for this, but I read somewhere that you should start somewhere and try a bunch of packages and see which ones you like.

    My very first comment is that the install CD booted just fine on my external USB drive. (There have been discussions on problems with XP's Restore Disk elsewhere, if you're interested.)

    My very second comment is that wireless setup with Ubuntu 7.04 was a breeze. In case you've not heard, wireless on Linux is supposed to be a harrowing experience, meant to make linux veterans of us all. However, Ubuntu autodetected the wireless hardware and loaded the appropriate drivers, no problem. I was worried initially because it didn't jump onto the network, but that was because the network is WEP encrypted. After setting up the key, it connected to the network fine.

    I am not typing this on my TC100, though (I'm typing it on my desktop) because my system is hanging right now and I'm not sure if Firefox will load or not. I started the Install, but then decided to read around about Linux, and that's when I got the wireless working. The installer really doesn't like this and is punishing me by eating my cpu time. Also, I just started the disk partitioning portion, which may just take a long time.

    So, this is basically a note to anybody trying to install Linux on their old machine that the starting stages for Ubuntu are fairly painless (unless, of course, this installer hang-time continues...). I may or may not make this an all-out description of my ordeal; only time will tell.

    Good luck to any who are interested.
    Last edited by run4flat; 04-07-2009 at 10:57 PM. Reason: Changed the title, which was not representative

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    Once I knew I could get the wireless working fine, I decided to restart and focus on the install without doing anything else. I think I have a really slow CD drive (I don't remember, it was so long ago when I bought it) so that was probably causing problems. Doing that, the install was slow, but it worked.

    I should clarify that one reason I've hardly used my tablet is that it has to be fully updated in order for my school to let me connect to the network. It seemed to me that keeping it updated with Windows meant letting it get slower and slower as Windows overtook more and more of the resources. I'm more optimistic that I can find something that will work with Linux.

    Everything is now up and running just fine. I haven't installed any drivers (or any software at all, for that matter) so I can't comment on those. However, elsewhere on the Buzz I found a link to linux-tablet-pc.dhs.org, which discusses Michael Rolig's experience with a TC1000. So far, though, I'm fairly pleased. I got a working system with relatively little pain.

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    Great...i didnt find a way to put the pen working...
    The system with Linux is slow , dont you think.

    L

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    Hi run4flat! How are you? I haven't been on the buzz for months, last time we spoke (Jan 2006!) you had done some fantastic work hacking one of Journal's dll files to customize the toolbars. I still used that until recently but I have a newer tablet now that I recently upgraded to Vista. I didn't format the drive so I still had your version of Journal but it won't run under Vista and there is no NbkIntl.dll for the updated Vista version. :(

    I recently tried Ubuntu on a dying Dell Inspiron but couldn't get the wireless to work at all. A little digging around showed that my 3com card won't work with Linux, that and a few other niggles that were important to me forced me back to XP. Although I did keep 2 or 3 live CD's just incase I want another wee taste of Linux. Also, they are great as boot disks!
    http://www.tabletpcbuzz.com/forum/up...865916_mrh.GIF
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    Mr. H, yeah, I think that's the last time I was on the Buzz until deciding to do this. I'm glad that hack was working for you. I should probably post it online somewhere (which I didn't know how to do back then).

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    After messing around a little bit more, this is what I found:
    1) Ubuntu has a built-in Add/Remove tool that's easily accessible (directly under the Applications menu) but it's only for X-windows programs, I think. I say this because my first big goal was to get LyX up and running, and I could only do that via the command prompt.

    2) Command-line 'sudo' (= super-user do) runs a command as the super-user (and requires that you enter a password). Check out http://www.softpanorama.org/Access_control/sudo.shtml
    sudo rmdir SomethingSpecial

    3) Command-line 'apt-get' is the command for getting Debian packages. More on those below. It turns out you have to run apt-get using sudo. :-) For basic help try
    apt-get help
    at the prompt. An example of a real use would be
    sudo apt-get install lyx
    This is actually a very cool program (app?).

    4) What is installed on your machine? Try the 'whereis' command-line utility:
    whereis tex
    If you don't get any response (try it with something obvious like 'whereis ubuntu' so you know what you're looking for), it's probably not there, or not in your path. Anyway, if you're not sure if you need to apt-get a piece of software, a null response here will tell you. For a more complete list of command-lines, check out
    http://www.howtoforge.com/useful_linux_commands

    5) What can apt-get pull off the web for you? For a list of Feisty's (i.e. v7.04) software packages, check out:
    http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/feisty/
    It's not the most easily perused corner of the web, but it works.


    Now, I am _not_ happy with the wake-up from hibernation or stand-by For whatever reason, Ubuntu does not load the USB devices after such a procedure which means that any keyboard input is out, aka YOU CANNOT SIGN-IN. So, although the machine is capable of stand-by and hibernate, you can't actually use it on a TC1000, for now.

    I have not tried working with the pen or other drivers. My top priorities have been getting this into shape for work, which almost never includes using the stylus. However, it's next on my list.

    galinha - you mentioned that you thought Linux ran slow. I haven't really stretched the system yet so I can't say, but a local Linux guru suggested using XFCE as the windows client rather than Gnome or KDE, both of which are comparatively resource-hungry. I may end up switching to that in the long run, but for now I'll stick with the default.

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    My problem is stil the pen !

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    galinha -

    I haven't had time to check it out much myself, but you should look at:
    http://www.rainbowbreeze.it/images/r...00_install.txt

    You can find other technical information at
    http://www.handhelds.org/hypermail/t...linux/current/

    David

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    I won't have much time over the next week or so to fiddle with Linux, so I should probably mention that I had trouble getting the NVidia drivers to work on my machine and decided to remove them for now (which was a fairly painless process). I think the problem was with the refresh rate, but I couldn't figure out how to fix it.

    There are a couple of things I wish I had, most importantly sleep and hibernate. I believe there are work-arounds for the USB problems, something called Suspend2, but I haven't found a clear, quick answer yet. I also have not tried to install the power management system, though I don't think that's too difficult.


    In all, Ubuntu will turn your TC1000 into a decent LAPTOP without effort. If you want to enable the pen or really optimize the system, you'll have to do some work, but out of the box, it's pretty good.

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    A note on turning the wireless signal off. I flew on a plane yesterday and had to figure it out.

    In order to turn your wireless card off (i.e. stop the little green light from blinking) go to the networking icon in the upper right corner of the screen, right-click, and de-select 'Enable Wireless'.

    I haven't confirmed it, but I hope that turning the wireless of will have a noticeable increase in the battery life.

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