Hi, I really like the Intuos3 grip pen with the

Infinite Entropy · 01-18-2005, 07:29 PM

Hi, I really like the Intuos3 grip pen with the duoswitch, the rubber grip, and the very stylish appearance. I was wondering if anyone knows if it works with the M200? I really think it will, because it says on the Wacom site it uses the Penabled technology, and it looks REALLY simmilar to the two Cintiq pens, but is much better looking.

Shogmaster · 01-19-2005, 02:09 AM

Intuos series does not share the same pen frequency as the UD series sensors in the Wacom Penabled Tablet PCs.

However, the grip pen (http://www.coolgraphicstuff.com/stor...?id=102&cat=11) sold for the Cintiq 18SX does work fine with UD series sensors, and is similar in construction and feel to the Intuos 3 grip pen.

j.c. · 01-19-2005, 04:23 AM

I was looking at Wacom's site the other day, and it's a little confusing. Since their Tablet PC technology is the only thing that prominently affixes a "Penabled" label to it, I was under the impression that "Penabled" was strictly a Tablet PC thing. After closer inspection of their site, though, it seems that the term "Penabled" applies to all of their cordless/batteryless/pressure-sensitive pens and tablets.

Anyway, the only pens that will work with a TPC are those specifically labeled as "Tablet PC Penabled" and the Cintiq grip pens. I have a Cintiq grip pen (15x) and, personally, I think it's the best thing currently available for writing/drawing on a TPC. I think if feels much better than the Cross pen, which I also have, plus it has the duoswitch on the side. I also highly recommend the spring-loaded "stroke" nibs that you can buy from Wacom.

Infinite Entropy · 01-19-2005, 09:51 AM

Thanks for the reply. I guess I'll just have to get the cintiq pen, but the damn thing looks like it was designed by fisher-price. And I actually am eager to try the felt tips for a pencil -on-paper feel. I tend to write much neater with more friction. But what do the spring loaded nibs feel like?

quote:Originally posted by j.c.

I was looking at Wacom's site the other day, and it's a little confusing. Since their Tablet PC technology is the only thing that prominently affixes a "Penabled" label to it, I was under the impression that "Penabled" was strictly a Tablet PC thing. After closer inspection of their site, though, it seems that the term "Penabled" applies to all of their cordless/batteryless/pressure-sensitive pens and tablets.

Anyway, the only pens that will work with a TPC are those specifically labeled as "Tablet PC Penabled" and the Cintiq grip pens. I have a Cintiq grip pen (15x) and, personally, I think it's the best thing currently available for writing/drawing on a TPC. I think if feels much better than the Cross pen, which I also have, plus it has the duoswitch on the side. I also highly recommend the spring-loaded "stroke" nibs that you can buy from Wacom.

j.c. · 01-20-2005, 11:51 AM

Hmmm. I see what you mean about the "Fisher-Price" look. (Thanks a lot! Now I can never look at my pen the same way again!) If you can get past its appearance, though, it's pretty nice.

I bought a pack each of the felt nibs and the stroke nibs. To be honest, I was more interested in the felt nibs because I wanted a more pencil-on-paper feel. I decided to go ahead and order the stroke nibs, too, just to see what they were like. When I received them, I tried out the felt nibs first. I think my initial reaction to them was negative because 1) I was expecting a "pencil on paper" feel due to the way Wacom's website inaccurately describes them and 2) after getting so used to every other nib gliding freely across the screen, it seemed like they provided a little too much friction. So, I only tried them out for a few minutes before I moved on to the stroke nibs. I'm not really sure how to describe the stroke nibs, but the spring they contain provides some "give" to your strokes that, to me, feel very nice and natural, kind of like the difference between writing directly onto a very hard surface like glass or metal and writing on a thick pad of paper. So, for writing and navigating the GUI, I think they feel great. I've found that drawing with them, however, is kind of a mixed bag. They seem to give me more control over the pressure of my strokes, but I've noticed that they're just a tiny bit imprecise, tracking-wise, when I try to draw small details.

After I discovered that, I decided to try out the felt nibs again. I'm still not crazy about the overall feel of them (they feel almost exactly like a felt-tip pen on paper), but I do think they give me more control over slow, deliberate strokes than any other nib. They definitely eliminate the slick, slippery feel that you sort of grow accustomed to with the other nibs. I seem to get the best results from these nibs when I'm drawing small details, so I might just stick with them for now. Maybe I'll load one of the stroke nibs into my stock M200 pen so I can switch off when I feel like it.

Infinite Entropy · 01-20-2005, 02:19 PM

Thanks for the highly informative reply. I just have one question. How do you actually change the nibs on the stocks M200 pen? I didn't even think it was possible.

j.c. · 01-20-2005, 07:53 PM

The stock pen is supposed to come with a few replacement nibs and a small tool (it looks like a metal ring) that you use to pull the old nib out.

Pyxus · 01-21-2005, 01:06 AM

quote:Originally posted by j.c.

The stock pen is supposed to come with a few replacement nibs and a small tool (it looks like a metal ring) that you use to pull the old nib out.

j.c.,
I cannot find the nib packs (soft/stroke) you describe on Wacom website. Do you have a link?
Thanks in advance,

Pyxus

j.c. · 01-21-2005, 02:40 AM

You probably had trouble finding them because, for some reason, they're only listed under Intuos 3 Accessories/Replacement Parts.

Felt nibs:
http://wacomdirect.wacom.com/wacomdi...95&sku=PSIA043

Stroke nibs:
http://wacomdirect.wacom.com/wacomdi...95&sku=PSIA042