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alivania
11-23-2010, 01:18 AM
Hey, guys, I am newbie here and want to say hello to everyone first of all.
I am looking for a tablet with android system and want to buy one for my study. But my budget is a little tight (no more than $200) since I'm still a student now. I had a look on the Internet and found 2 android tablets, they are http://www.tinydeal.com/google-android-7-touch-screen-wifi-tablet-pc-px996d-l7012g03-p-7684.html and http://www.tinydeal.com/google-android-7-touch-wifi-tablet-pc-px996d-l7062g05-p-7199.html
Which one would be better and more pratical? Will it be a good choice to choose such a tablet? Could you offer me some professional advice? Thanks in advance.

docg
11-23-2010, 08:33 AM
Have you read any of the sticky threads. The reason I'm not going to attempt to answer this is because I don't know your useage, but Iwill leave it to others. I'm going to point out those threads as they have some useful information


choosing your screen

http://www.tabletpcbuzz.com/showthread.php?909-Choosing-your-screen

choosing your hard drive

http://www.tabletpcbuzz.com/showthread.php?923-Choosing-your-hard-drive


The following is from the top welcome note to this thread. :)

So you want to buy a tablet PC...


One of the most frequent questions in the General Tablet PC forum has been - Which tablet should I buy?

Ask your "newbie" questions here and your new friend and family at the Buzz will try and guide you down the right path.

As this forum grows, we'll take the accumulated commentary and assemble it into separate posts for artists, engineers, students, appraisers, etc. so that people in an industry can get feedback from those who have gone before them.

Michelle Mastin
11-23-2010, 01:40 PM
What exactly are you looking for it to do. Keep in mind that the lower performing Android tablets are not actually fast enough to keep up with fluid handwriting in any of the apps I've tried and can get rather laggy with larger PDFs.

Where in the world are you looking to buy from? If you are in the US, Best Buy is now stocking several 7" Android tablets in store. The Archos Home 7 is a nice 7"er for $199. I have a White Pandigital Novel (http://www.pandigital.net/pandigitalnovel) (beware the black ones are different hardware and not near as good) that I picked up from Bed Bath and Beyond. Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Pandigital-Digital-Reader-PRD07T10WWH7-Screen/dp/B00449W1WS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1290537617&sr=8-1)currently has those for only $155. The firmware they come with is garbage, but they are very hackable and there are several better firmwares in the wild. The Novel is a 7" 4:3 screen at 800x600, which I find more comfortable for reading that a 16:9 800x480 screen.

digitaldoc
11-24-2010, 10:42 AM
http://static.progressivemediagroup.com/uploads/imagelibrary/dell%20duo.JPG
New Dell Inspiron Duo. http://www.dell.com/content/topics/topic.aspx/global/products/landing/en/inspiron?c=us&l=en&s=dhs
The OS is Win7 Home (Business on up is needed for RDP) but good for a student who would benefit from MS Office software. You need MS Software for school unless you want to add another layer of complexity to your scholastic life. (I have 3 kids in College and one HS). They all have Imacs and need extra software (Office for Mac) and MS Software.

docg
11-24-2010, 01:50 PM
No inking capabilities on that unit dell inspiron duo, however for a student that will be using keyboard for notes and touch for websurfing-- it could be a good fit. I do see that the flip portion might be easily broken. IT looks cool! Price point is pretty good too.

WOW digitaldoctors youb eat cnet review! they don't have anything on it yet. However umpc portal does.

digitaldoc
11-24-2010, 06:06 PM
No inking capabilities on that unit dell inspiron duo, however for a student that will be using keyboard for notes and touch for websurfing-- it could be a good fit. I do see that the flip portion might be easily broken. IT looks cool! Price point is pretty good too.

WOW digitaldoctors youb eat cnet review! they don't have anything on it yet. However umpc portal does.


"No inking capabilities on that unit dell inspiron duo>>"

Not clear on what you are referring to with respect to no inking. Inking ability on the tablet is going to be software, since it is already hardware capable of inking. It's Win7 so it will have the TIP and any has the capability of inking if the software is amendable.

Michelle Mastin
11-24-2010, 07:44 PM
It's capable of inking if you don't mind writing with your fingers. Based on what I saw with a capacitive stylus on the ctl 2go slate and what GottaBeMobile's Warner Crocker showed in the ink show with the Tega v2, capacitive styluses may work on the iPad, but not so well on windows slates. The stylus I have works fine on the iPad, but was entirely unusable on the 2go slate.

Anyway, the Dell Duo is way out of the OP's requested under $200 price point. Also, the OP hasn't come back to clarify anything, and I'm learning towards considering it spam. I've seen several of these types of posts on several tablet forums, in addition to the Android device forums I follow. It's a brand new poster with a request for us to check out these two no-name Chinese tablets they are considering from some no-name Chinese importer site that just popped up. I think it's just spam to get us to click over to the website.

I could just be jaded, but as a forum moderator elsewhere on the interwebs, I'm always suspicious of first time posters who post links.

docg
11-24-2010, 08:07 PM
I probably should clarify what I mean by no inking on the duo-- Unless there has been some kind of 'vast' improvement in the software and stylus of capactive touch screens. The inking experience is most likely going to be rough, by rough I mean that you have to adapt your handwriting style to that of the digitizer's needs not your own. This to me is not a good experience. Countless times there have been comparisons for inking and the winner has been the active digitizer. I'm not saying that one day the capacitive experience might change. As for now my opinion- and it is just an opinion is that capacitive touch digitizers are not for handwriting. Only if you want to jot a quick sentence.

Spam from the top post- is a possibility.

digitaldoc
11-25-2010, 12:11 AM
I too should operationally define inking. Inking to me is, "Painting." You can ink or paint your handwriting in the Tablet Input Panel (or anywhere on your screen with ritePen) and the software converts it to text. My medical records program allows me to ink on a picture which is painting that allows me to mark the exact spot of the pain. Inking is painting or drawing. What happens to the paint after it hits the target is up to the software. Of course we need a screen that allows the capability of painting (hardware). :-)

Inking 2002 http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2002/Oct02/10-29tabletinking.mspx

Michelle Mastin
11-25-2010, 02:09 PM
While I'm relatively new to the world of active digitizers, I'm not new to using touchscreens to write stuff. To me, inking means using a pen to write on a screen as if I had an ink pen and were writing on paper. The "ink" should appear on the screen as naturally and fluidly as an ink pen on paper. I can say from my experiences with the ctl 2go slate that the current crop of capacitive pens do not do that on windows 7 based slates. Yes, I could awkwardly finger paint recognizable words in the TIP, but that was nowhere near as comfortable or intuitive an experience as writing with a pen on paper. My restive touchscreen based Archos 9 has a much more natural writing feel than the capacitive screened 2go slate. It's even more natural than using the capacitive stylus on the iPad, as I can't write as small as I normally would like to on the iPad. It's much more like handling a marker than a pen. None of the apps I've tried on Android (on the resistive screen of my pandigital novel) can keep up. They lag way behind the actual movements of the stylus tip, and the sample rate is too low, resulting in really jagged looking letters even with really slow motions. Normal writing results in an ureadable mess.

Based on the things I've tried, active digitizers on Windows 7 provide the most natural feel, then resistive touch screens with a good pen sized stylus and careful hand placement, then the capacitive pen on the iPad. Everything else I've tried, including forming letters with my fingertip, are too far away from the experience of pen and paper for me to consider "inking."

docg
11-25-2010, 10:34 PM
I see the difference in definitions and what you do with inking also affects the view of active versus capacitive or resistive. I'm more along the line of voilajack-- I'm writing long items notes comments and even using the gobinder capabilities to help students. I even have imported pdf handwriting worksheets into gobinder or journal in order to help them while the stylus and the glasstop on the tc1100 helps the student with dysgraphsia to learn to write better. Active digitzers for me.