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trmacdonal
01-08-2009, 11:28 AM
Hello Everyone,
I just wanted to share that the new Windows 7 beta works very well on an m1400. There is so far only one major issue that I am trying to solve. I can't rotate the display. Everything else works as good or better than XP. I can't use the fingerprint reader anymore, but that is because there is no free version of omnipass that will run in Vista. The way I installed it was to boot from DVD using my xbox 360 HD DVD drive. It installed very quickly. Then I installed the XP drivers that were missing and installed them in XP compatibility mode, plus the vista Motion Dashboard 5.0 for the LE1700 to get the bluetooth to work. The dashboard will not open, but you can just use the Mobility Center. I would recommend this to anyone who uses an m1400. It is a definite improvement. You get all of the good handwriting improvements from Vista, but the OS performs faster than XP. If I can get a driver that will rotate the display, then there is no reason I would go back.
PS I only have 512 Ram, so anyone with more would likely see a better improvement than I did.
John Hill
01-11-2009, 07:48 PM
that is pretty amazing. I wouldn't have thought that Windows 7 would run on a unit of that vintage - especially with only 512 RAM. BTW, why do you only have 512 RAM???
bmhome1
01-11-2009, 08:20 PM
You can rotate display from Display Control Panel for now. Right-click on desktop and select screen resolution.
Have you tried playing any videos from WMP yet? Be prepared for possible freeze that requires hard reboot. If you let Win7 use default VGA driver, it should work okay, though.
See Windows 7 thread in HP forum for partial solution work-around disabling Direct-3D.
trmacdonal
01-12-2009, 04:00 PM
Thanks for the advice about the screen rotation. I will try it. I tried rotating the screen in the Mobility Center and by setting the original screen rotate Button to rotate screen when its pushed. I have not tried to watch a video with or without WMP. I normally use Zoom video player. I will try that solution if I get lock up problems. Flash videos like Hulu.com work fine. I was able to install omnipass and get the fingerprint reader working. I used the XP omnipass from the motion website run in compatbility mode. I haven't run into any major issues yet, as I mostly use it to browse the web and as GPS with Streets and Trips.
bmhome1
01-12-2009, 05:37 PM
Here's two resouces for getting Vista running on 1400's, the information provided directly relates to Windows 7 also:
http://m1400.netfast.org/index.php
http://mobilepcwiki.org/mpc/index.php?title=Motion/M1400/Windows_Vista_Installation_Notes
btw, here's a beautiful leather folio the 1400 with cover on fits into perfectly and is very inexpensive:
http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/499431/Leather-Padfolio-x-x-Black/
Billzilla
01-14-2009, 08:09 AM
Hey, just wanted to chime in here and say that I also have Win7 running more or less like a dream on my m1400, although I have 1GB of ram. I echo the OPs issues with graphics. The problem appears to actually be that Windows 7 doesn't like the Intel graphics driver that works just fine with Vista. Installing it is successful, but upon reboot it fails and defaults back to the generic driver which seemingly doesn't allow for rotation. That's the only feature I've noticed missing in the last 48 hours, though. I don't really ever play videos on my tablet, so I haven't tested that. I pretty much use it exclusively for web browsing (works fine) and drawnig (works great! Win7 works just fine with the latest wacom driver.. I had issues under vista).
In all, the hype is true. It's much less resource hungry than vista is, possibly even as light as XP if you turn off desktop themes (which, on the aging m1400, has always been always a good idea). If the graphics driver issue gets solved, it's honestly a must-install.
I've written quite a bit more about my experiences with 7 (I'm actually using it on two computers) over on my blog which is linked in my sig.
Good to see another brave soul like myself still wringing every last bit of use out of their old motion!!!
Billzilla
01-14-2009, 08:13 AM
Another note: rotation doesn't work from motion dashboard, mobility center OR right clicking the desktop and selecting resolution. The option to switch from portrait to landscape simply isn't there as it is on other computers (with, presumably, working drivers).
Sadly I'm not super hopeful for a proper fix on this..
trmacdonal
01-14-2009, 08:34 AM
I too discovered that the rotation doesn't work at all. Does anyone know of another pc that uses the same video harware? Or is it just too old? Is there such a thing as a pcmia video card? I would like to get it to rotate, but honestly its not that big of a deal, I can always boot into XP if I really need screen rotation.
Sprinkler Guy
01-16-2009, 03:44 PM
do you guys think that windows 7 will retain its lighter resource usage benefits over Vista all the way to its final release? Is there a chance that its not such a hog because it's not "done".
It would be nice to get the tablet friendlier features of Vista with the lighter footprint of XP.
Is anyone dual booting a LE1700 with XP and 7 yet? I'd appreciate hearing any experiences you've had?
Thanks,
trmacdonal
01-16-2009, 04:27 PM
I have been doul booting Win 7 and XP. It works great. Just install Win 7 to a new partion and it sets up a boot menu for you. I really haven't gone back into XP much though. I think I will have to if I want to watch videos or rotate the display. I would expect that the beta is as resource heavy as 7 will be. There are things running in the background to find bugs and errors. I would expect Win 7 will completely replace XP in older machines.
Billzilla
01-17-2009, 05:28 PM
I concur. I suspect that if anything, Windows 7 will become even MORE efficient by the release. Microsoft has been trying to put XP out to pasture for a while but can't completely kill it off because of the emerging netbook market, which typically favors portability over power. Netbooks struggle with Vista if they'll run it at all, so Microsoft had to figure out some way to cash in on the way things are trending. It's a good plan, honestly.
Unfortunately I don't think my poor ol' m1400 is high on the list of things to make work. I really doubt motion will release a fix, the only hope is that something else uses the same video chipset and the fix makes it into windows update. The odds of that? I don't know.
but again, the thing totally WORKS. I'm a few days in and I'm NOT dual booting, I'm using ONLY windows 7, and the only missing element is screen rotation. I'll take it.
Bartman
01-17-2009, 05:40 PM
If no one is fixing the graphics card issues, a tablet pc without rotating the screen feature is not optimal, any chance some one could fix this?
I can live without the modem and without the fingerprint reader. Without rotation it is not so easy since I rotate the screen regularly especially when I read PDF files.
Sound works, even Bluetooth. And now we are stuck with the intel onboard graphics? This can't be.
Windows 7 is indeed faster on the M1400 than Vista, I just installed the beta on my spare M1400 with only 512 MB RAM.
By the way I had to install the intel 2200BG WiFi drivers manually. Windows 7 did not find the installed hardware.
bmhome1
01-17-2009, 08:40 PM
Try downloading the Intel video driver from Motion support:
http://www.motioncomputing.com/support/driver_download_1400.asp
and unzip file to desktop. Change properties in .exe file to XP compatibility mode and check run as administrator.
Install driver and check in Device Manager for video driver now Intel 855 instead of VGA. Check resolution window and see if orientation selection is available now.
Reboot and again check Device Manager to see if defaulted back to VGA. If so, select show hidden devices and reselect Intel 855.
Next disabling the VGA driver in properties might force using the Intel 855 on reboot.
There now IS the chance that rebooting with VGA driver disabled may cause major issue and require booting into Safe Mode to re enable VGA if the 855 simply won't take.
The only way to find out is someone taking on the challenge. The reward would be rotation functioning, even if video playback still requires disabling Direct 3D in driver Troubleshooting in properties. If the 855 driver runs, at least rotation should be available simply right-click desktop>resolution window.
The more issue reports MS gets in feedback the greater a chance for future 855 basic drivers. My 1100 got Geo Force 32 driver update from Win7 at install, although also hobbled with ridiculous Direct 3D incompatibility.
I HAD full video functioning with previous Win7 6801 build so something changed with 7000. Neither was faster or slower overall, so the change certainly seems arbitrary. My guess is something related to the Aero shake and other animations that 6801 had present but locked out, getting running for 7000 probably sacrificed legacy support. With the huge numbers of 855/915 chip laptops still in service it's no small issue promoting transitioning those from XP to Win7.
Billzilla
01-21-2009, 05:34 PM
Decided to try this for a larf. It doesn't appear to work. Here's the steps I took.
Uninstalled current generic display driver, rebooted.
installed freshly downloaded display driver linked in previous post.
Switched Display Driver to XP SP2 Compatibility Mode as instructed, ran as administrator, installed. Did not reboot.
Checked Screen Resolution:
Rotation option not displayed, can not change resolution to anything other than 640x480
Checked Device Manager:
Display Adapter is listed as Intel(r) 82852/82855 GM/GME Graphics Controller, but is listed twice, one right after the other, once as normal, once with a "!" indicating a problem driver.
Rebooted.
"Installing Device Driver" balloon appears in notification area. Fails.
Checked Screen Resolution:
Can now select 800x600 or 1024x768 resolution, but rotation still not given as an option.
Checked Device Manager:
Standard VGA Graphics adapter is the only one listed. Under "other devices," the Video Controller has appeared with a "!" indicating a problem driver. Clicked "show hidden drivers," no new entries were shown, although the 82882/82855 driver remains installed. Attempting to install driver again produces dialogue asking if the user would like to replace current version with same version.
If there really are as many similar graphics adapters on the market (I don't doubt it, it certainly seems plausible but have honestly no frame of reference for such a thing, my 1400 is the only mobile computer I've owned in ten years, I'm more of a desktop kind of fellow) then it seems reasonable to expect a fix at some point.
To any owners of m1400s using either XP or Vista I would urge you not to let this singular issue prevent you from rethinking switching over to Windows 7. In a nutshell, it runs much more smoothly than vista with more features than both XP and Vista. Something that not a lot of people have mentioned in their reviews is that the handwriting recognition has received a really nice upgrade. Even untrained I noticed a significant improvement in its accuracy over my TRAINED install of Vista, which was itself a quantum improvement over XP: TE.
If you can possibly live without screen rotation, I have experienced NO DOWNSIDE to upgrading (actually I take that back. upgrading was a nightmare. Do a clean install and save yourself the heartache). Installation was simple and smooth and nearly all of the drivers were recognized out of the box.
However, I do come bearing a fix for something unrelated and generally less useful. Fingerprint reader does work (biometric logon does at least, haven't gotten navigation working but haven't really tried) using the asus fingerprint driver found on ASUS website. I don't have enough posts to post links, but the file is caled FingerPrints_vista_070315.zip and is the same one linked to on the m1400 Vista Installation notes on mobile pc wiki (dot org). I've been using it for some time and can report no issues to speak of.
tpope
02-16-2009, 09:14 AM
I just inherited a M1400 at work (my first ever tablet, though I've been coveting one for the last 4-5 years). It was missing the original disks and the hard drive was both going bad and completely blank, so I installed the Windows 7 beta.
I'm having the same problem with screen rotation as the others, not surprisingly, and while that's annoying, it's acceptable given the alternative.
One problem I am having that hasn't been reported is that the tablet refuses to wake up after hibernating. I've tried every hardware button and the power switch and can't get it to wake up. The best I can do is hold the power switch for 10 seconds and force a shut down. I can't tell if I'm just doing something wrong (this is my first tablet, as I said) or if it's just a Win7 bug.
The only other issue, in the "annoyance" column is that the real time handwriting translation in the TIP gets bogged down. I'm hoping that it is only a memory issue and once I jump to 2Gb (upgrade is on order) it will go away, or at least get better.
As for the rest, I absolutely love this old machine! I am primarily using it for artwork, but it is functional enough to serve as a travel machine as well, and is likely to replace the Powerbook G4 I am currently using.
PaulB
02-16-2009, 10:46 PM
Well, this Windows 7 is beta so maybe a few dozen reports will result in a fix for screen rotation.
Is anyone noticing an increase of battery life with Windows 7? I have the 7 Beta but just updated my M1400 to Vista and I'm *very* happy with Vista. I haven't installed 7 yet. There's a site named "Black Viper" that goes into the various processes in Vista and advises which ones can be be safely disabled (depending upon the circumstances of course) that may reduce Vista's resource needs and maybe increase battery life.
Would the step from a *tweaked* Vista to 7 be a good way to go? I was frankly shocked at the leap in usuability from XP Tablet to Vista Home Premium.
bmhome1
02-17-2009, 12:53 AM
Sleep/hibernate failure is common Windows 7 855 chip problem. So is the slowdown in TIP, I have it with 2GB RAM.
Don't bother messing around with Black Vyper services voodoo, with 2GB RAM services using 50MB of RAM sitting unused means nothing in today's world. That tweaking was for XP on 256MB RAM in 2001.
Services are EXTREMELY interdependent on each other (tripled with tablets) and turning one off can cause malfunctioning elsewhere. It's best left to default settings.
PaulB
02-17-2009, 02:27 AM
Thank you bmhome1. I thoght that maybe the forum and long-time M1400 users had found a few "gotchas". Since this is a Vista Home Premium OS and not necessarily a tweaked OS -- XP Tablet, for example, I was wondering if some unnecessary items were installed. For example, I have faster boot time and less CPU usage by disabling Windows Sidebar Gadgets which are displayed upon Vista installtion on the tablet. Things like that. Processes running the background that eat up battery. Maybe not a lot individually but maybe something that would add up to a discernable amount if all were disabled. If the Vista install sorts this all out, then great, less to think about.
I do some common sense things that I can think of such as keeping the brightness low but usuable. Little tricks like that is what what I'm looking for. I've never really even used a notebook much so power issues have never been a concern until now.
Is using 7 a better experience than Vista? Is battery life increased? Of course I could just wipe the install and find out for myself! ;)
bmhome1
02-17-2009, 04:09 PM
Start up processes and running backround processes ARE significant items to take control over. Download freeware Autoruns and check all the start up items. Some such as any auto-updaters can really drag down your OS during loading. I turn all of them off to manual. Some are very aggressive such as iTunes/Quicktime and will reset back to auto after every update.
The best control over added backround/start up processes is to use freeware WinPatrol which acts as gateway for every new added process and explicitly asks if you approve being added. Not frequent occurrence, just when new software installed/updated.
I run Vista full-time and find Windows 7 faster overall, but three BIG drawbacks currently prevent using: video freeze with 855 chipset, sleep/hibernate failure, and lag in both TIP input and in IE8 with many web sites.
tpope
02-17-2009, 08:41 PM
I'm sorry to hear about the TIP lag, as I do like the (new?) design of the Win7 TIP as opposed to the one that appears to be standard in Vista.
Sleep and hibernate is not quite as much of an issue, though it's annoying at times. Since it's cold out and I have to walk between buildings to meetings I just leave the machine running, figuring that it can't overheat in my bag in the 15 minutes it takes to walk across campus. It's marginally better than dealing with the startup time, which is pretty anemic at the moment (might improve with the memory upgrade).
The only other thing I miss with Win7 is the screen rotation, but like others I've submitted an explicit bug report about that to Microsoft, for whatever that is worth.
Overall it sounds like if I wanted to downgrade the TIP experience and slow the whole machine down with Vista, I could have rotation, and better TIP performance. I've only had the machine since Tuesday, and today doesn't count as I stupidly left the stylus at work, so I'll have to think about that.
Are there any other strong reasons to stay with Windows 7 or drop to Vista, from those who have had experience with both?
PaulB
02-17-2009, 10:13 PM
I pretty happy with Vista Home Premium. We'll see how the beta progresses, I assume that 7 fixes will be forthcoming during that time.
tpope
02-21-2009, 06:58 PM
However, I do come bearing a fix for something unrelated and generally less useful. Fingerprint reader does work (biometric logon does at least, haven't gotten navigation working but haven't really tried) using the asus fingerprint driver found on ASUS website. I don't have enough posts to post links, but the file is caled FingerPrints_vista_070315.zip and is the same one linked to on the m1400 Vista Installation notes on mobile pc wiki (dot org). I've been using it for some time and can report no issues to speak of.
I have had the exact opposite experience with the fingerprint driver. It crashes with a "memory cannot be written" error on startup, after almost doubling startup time and paradoxically throwing my screen calibration temporarily out of whack.
Edit: Finally uninstalled but calibration issues on startup remain. I'm trying to figure out what is going on with that, as the only other software installed on the same reboot was Quicktime, which has also been removed.
tpope
02-24-2009, 10:45 AM
After a lengthy battle with some installed programs I think I might have falsely accused the fingerprint driver of causing those problems. While the problems appeared when I tried to install the driver, they seemed to be leftovers from prior installs (specifically Symantec Antivirus and iPass).
One thing I did discover in all of this is that if hibernation isn't working anyway, there's no need to store the hibernation file (especially on the 40Gb hard drive I've got) to keep the file. A quick trip to disk cleanup and I'm up 2Gb, which is always a good thing.
Maybe I'll get brave enough to try the fingerprint driver again one of these days. :-)
Henk Poley
02-25-2009, 11:44 AM
The Fujitsu ST4110 VGA driver that works for the M1200 on Vista, sadly doesn't work on Windows 7 build 7000 or 7022.
PaulB
03-01-2009, 02:20 PM
On a lark I decided to install Windows 7 on the M1400. Build 7022. Wow. To characterize it in one word -- snappy. It is fast and slick. I'm having to use the Generic VGA at 1024x768 and can't seem to adjust the brightness anywhere, including Mobility Center so battery life suffers. I've tried various drivers, they either won't install or if they do install they revert back to Generic VGA (as reported earlier).
Can't wait for a full-blown official release of Windows 7. More later. Still trying to work out the video driver issue.
Boot times are incredible:
1. Background ~0:25
2. Desktop ~0:10
3. Programs ~0:08
That right, about 43 seconds. Previously it was about 2m 25s. Maybe the stock of M1400 just went upward.
Update: I see a Windows error 43 when looking at the driver through Device Manager -> General for the 82855.
PaulB
03-01-2009, 04:36 PM
Found this tip but have yet been able to get it to work:
1) downloading latest drivers (v14.19.50) for XP from Intel's site and extracting them to a separate folder
2) booting W7 in the safe mode
3) Device Manager -> Video Adapter (VGA compatible) -> Properties
4) Driver -> Update driver -> Browse -> Let me pick -> Display adapters -> Have disk -> give path to "win2000" folder of the extracted driver
5) After you get error about driver installation, in Device Manager click on "Scan for new hardware"
6) Boot your W7 in "Disable driver signing enforcement" mode (F8 at init)
bmhome1
03-01-2009, 05:44 PM
Try selecting run in 2000 mode in compatibilities tab of properties of the 2000 driver first (apply).
PaulB
03-01-2009, 10:22 PM
Thank you for the tip. I really messed up 7 hacking around with it installing driver/disabling/uninstalling/run as admin, etc. I'm doing a fresh install. We'll find out if it works. Or has it worked for you?
bmhome1
03-01-2009, 10:58 PM
I've given up on Windows 7 until sleep/hibernate gets fixed and videos can be played without hobbling 3D.
I find it's faster than Vista in general feel, but actual tablet input and web surfing far slower.
PaulB
03-01-2009, 11:32 PM
I kept getting blue screens when changing to 2000 compatibility. I'm reinstalling 7 now. I'll keep hacking away at 7. I did submit a report to Microsoft before messing with the video driver. I was impresseed enough to stick with it for awhile and see what gets fixed or updated in the coming months. I didn't find web surfing slower but I'll qualify that with having 2GB RAM and 802.11n wifi. The experience Index scores were the same except for one of the graphics numbers. Not unexpected without the driver. It's frustrating to get it loaded then have Windows go back and uninstall it becauae it isn't signed or whatever. Windows needs to stop helping me so much. ;)
PaulB
03-02-2009, 12:15 PM
Hello ths Windows 7 thread may help:
http://www.sevenforums.com/drivers/637-installing-video-driver-intel-855-centrino-chipset.html
I'm sorting through it now.
PaulB
03-02-2009, 02:36 PM
1. Reinstalled Vista installed all drivers but Bluetooth ran Windows Update to get even newer drivers.
2. Download and installed DriverMax program
3. Exported all installed driver to a .zip file.
The plan is to reinstall Windows 7 use as many of the Vista 82855 drivers as it takes to (hopefully) get things to work.
Configure to ignore unsigned drivers.
*Hope* it all works.
bmhome1
03-02-2009, 02:57 PM
Keep us updated on this, there are huge number of laptops with 855 graphics chip.
My slowness with web seems more from so many sites yet optimized for IE8, some run just fine but many forums are glacially slow loading.
PaulB
03-02-2009, 03:13 PM
Ah OK, some are fast and some are slow then, understandable. I will keep this thread updated with success or failure.
PaulB
03-02-2009, 05:03 PM
Video driver still erros out (Error 43). Hmmm...... Keep digging at it.
PaulB
03-02-2009, 05:38 PM
If I try to force the 82855 driver I get BSOD 0x0000007E
ialmnt5.sys
PaulB
03-02-2009, 07:26 PM
No success with my drivers. Now I'm just running the gauntlet of 82855 drivers with the hopes that one of them will work.
PaulB
03-03-2009, 12:23 AM
I ran the gauntlet of about a dozen driver from ~3500->4497 and beyond. The 82855 drivers installed with Vista are, apparently, sourced from Microsoft and do not work and fail with an error 43. I'm out of ideas. Anyone else try this?
tpope
03-03-2009, 09:13 AM
You got a lot farther than I did. The one thing I tried in attempt to circumvent the core problem was a third-party screen rotation program provided by one of my coworkers. That failed miserably, clobbering the original driver and requiring several restarts and driver finagling to completely remove (it ended up forcing the resolution down to 640x480x16, and still couldn't rotate the screen).
Other than video issues (rotation only, I don't play games on my M1400) I've been very happy with Windows 7 so far. As I mentioned in another thread, my startup time is hovering around the two minute mark, but that is with the full suite of applications I need for work installed (Creative Suite 4, Office 2007, Cisco VPN, etc...)
PaulB
03-03-2009, 10:14 AM
At some point in this endevour I had some promising moments such as some of Intel's screen adjustment options showing up -- gamma, etc. but the driver would always fail and never had screen rotation. Today is new and I can revisit the issue once again.
PaulB
03-03-2009, 01:39 PM
Last ditch attempt: Reinstall Vista, SP1, pull off the drivers with DriverMax. I will now try the *upgrade* route for Windows 7 to see if that makes a difference.
PaulB
03-03-2009, 02:50 PM
On going with upgrade also found this site with lots of comments: http://vinf.net/2009/01/12/windows-7-and-the-intel-855gm-video-driver-solution/
PaulB
03-03-2009, 03:29 PM
Sigh. BSOD. I'll go back and revisit that page and see if I missed anything.
drchandra
03-06-2009, 03:30 AM
Hi all, I have installed the Win7 with no problems into my M1400, the unique and most important issue is the Intel driver, dont work using all the tips in the forum and others, I tried the Drivermax option, but once realize the restarting shows a blue screen and must to use the restore point option to leave the system stable again.
Don´t try this option because not works SURE!!! USE AS UR OWN RISK!!.
I hope someone find a solution because the system is very useful and the performance is the same of better than XP. For me (2GB RAM) is good, knowing the M1400 has a legacy hardware...
I´m triying many solutions if I´ll find something come back again to share the experience...
drchandra
03-06-2009, 04:06 AM
TEMPORARY SOLUTION FIND OR NOT!!!!! ROTATING SCREEN & TOTAL RESOLUTION FOR INTEL 855 FUNCTIONALLITY COMPLETE USING THE MOTION BUTTON TO ROTATE THE SCREEN...
AND...HERE THE SOLUTION...
Try this:
1. Go to the standard vga adapter and change the drivers to the built-in intel 945 driver using the "Pick from list" option (Remember to uncheck "Show compatible hardware" to see the list). OK through all error or compatibility prompts and reboot.
2. Once rebooted you will see a yellow triangle on the new device. Proceed to update the driver using "Have disk" and install the signed 855 INTEL (DOWNLOAD IT FROM INTEL PAGE THE ZIP NO THE EXE). Do not reboot...
If your set up is similar to mine, you'll notice that you don't have to reboot after changing the drivers. You'll also notice that when you go to display properties, the intel drivers are somehow working and you can set your lcd to native resolution.
Now to the bad news... after reboot, the standard vga adapter driver takes over again and all is lost This is where i am.. Hopefully somebody can figure out how to take this to the next step. There is no doubt the XP drivers work.. it's just Windows 7 has problems with it during boot-up.
ANY QUESTIONS WELCOME!!!
REGARDS
PaulB
03-06-2009, 08:17 AM
That's were I am as well. There is apparent success then later the drivers fail and upon reboot upon reinstall revert back to the VGA drivers. I've tried booting with comands to not enforce driver signing at boot time but have had no success. I'm hoping that a new release of Wndows 7 RC or other build will resolve the problem. I have submitted the problem via the reporting so maybe if enough peopole respond with a problem that something will be done to fix it.
Henk Poley
03-07-2009, 11:30 AM
The 82830 driver I use on my M1200 has a similar problem. But at least one version is known to 'stick':
http://mobilepcwiki.com/mpc/index.php?title=Fujitsu/ST4110/Vista_Installation_Notes#Video_Drivers
Might be something simple, like a setting in the INF. Haven't looked into it myself. Someone could compare it to the "real" M1200 driver you can download from Motion Computing.
drchandra
03-07-2009, 09:18 PM
Hi again, someone tried the 7048 with bests results with the problem with the Intel 855 driver?
Ah! and the firewire support??.
I´m downloading now the 7048 release is for make an update or wait the next version or RC or the final, and not spend my time rebooting and rebooting ...:frusty:
PaulB
03-07-2009, 10:53 PM
I thought the 7048 version didn't officially or unofficially exist that maybe it was 7042 or 7036.
drchandra
03-07-2009, 11:01 PM
Hi Paul, is the 7048 release sure, but I´dont know if the problem is solved in it, nobody metion it. (NOT INSTALLED YET).But let me a friend who has installed.
So, I´ve have just bought a new LE1600 on Ebay, another toy to play with the WIN7...:clap2::frusty:
PaulB
03-08-2009, 12:43 AM
Apparently it is some sort of build as I see reports of both x64 and x86 versions of the "7048". The M1400 would only accept 32-bit, if I'm not mistaken.
drchandra
03-08-2009, 12:52 AM
Yes, there are two versions, the most popular was the x64, but this release is x86 tested and working. The last week some people upload many fakes about this release, but now is the good.
Obviously M1400 tech is 32 bits only accepts x86 software. Don´t worry I know this.
drchandra
04-09-2009, 12:47 AM
Thinking about, and boring in my house...adquired a LE1600TS, arrived, but the ts is a imprecise screen and a expensive machine, but have installed 1,6Ghz was my objective.
Well, investigating about the connections, plugins and more... my deduction was the LE and the M models machines have the same tech...ok
, lets go...My first chance was the digitizer of the M model (is viewanywhere) in the LE...sucess...very, very easy...the second chance the M1400 with a resistive (the LE) screen installed...WOW men!!!
With a less knolegde of dms connections and a much of luck...the machine boots up in win7 and desolderind the GM915n chip (is my SO acctually),but dont works...:-((
Another days of investigating...the driver is TouchKO resistive driver, but windows seven adquires automatically the wacom driver...error, why?? I dont know, but is the reallity...
Remembering the firsts of the lines of this forum, something talk about the "drivermax" to export the working drivers to a understand file to the OS, ok, say and done...export the driver and import into the new M1400 with the TS screen....wow wow wow it works...my sunrise appears in my face and leave the chair to say "DONEEEEE!!!I´M A MONSTEER".
Results:
M1400TS THE FIRST IN THE WORLD!!
And is possible change the LE1600TS converting the screen in a digitizer(more precission) screen!!!
PaulB
04-09-2009, 01:19 AM
A Touch Screen M1400! Very good work!
magus57
05-03-2009, 09:29 PM
I'm considering doing this too, but I just have a question - what benefits are there with Windows 7 over XP Tablet Edition? I keep seeing how Windows 7 takes away certain functions, but what does it do in return? The only thing I've seen so far is faster loading/boot, but I'd rather have full functionality of the M1400 than faster loading/boot. Are the touchscreen drivers better or something?
PaulB
05-04-2009, 10:29 AM
The handwriting recognition in Windows 7 is excellent (in my view).
Bartman
05-09-2009, 03:49 AM
Installed Windows 7 RC on my M1400, here are my findings:
Drivers found:
Fingerprint reader (what a surprise)
Drivers working after manual intervention:
Sigmatel Sound (just install the one from the M1400)
Bluetooth (after installing latest M1700 Dashboard, some functions were not recognized, blue LED worked)
Intel 2200 BG Wireless (not recognized by Windows 7, had to install Intel drivers manually)
Not working (all caused by non existing support for the Intel 855GME):
Intel graphics driver (none available for Windows 7)
Screen rotation
watching TV with Media Center (but tv tuner was recognized, programs were found, I used the Terratec HT PCMCIA one)
Screen brightness adjust (related to non existing graphics card driver)
To sum it up: This M1400 would indeed run Windows 7 RC quite well. Shame on Intel for not doing their job. With a working Intel graphics driver, this hardware would have had another chance to be one of the greatest Tablet PCs running the latest Microsoft OS, even without the official support from Motion Computing.
Intel ruined it all, once again. This is really not very customer friendly and unfortunately totally in line with what Intel is up to: selling new stuff. The story of stuff is right, again.
Come on Intel, it is a Centrino chipset, support the 855GME and help the M1400 running Windows 7 with pride. I do not ask for Aero. All that is required is a working graphics card driver.
I just sent an inquiry to Intel, probably a waste of time, but if we all address this issue, there may be a chance. it's not only the M1400 that has the 855GM installed.
PaulB
05-09-2009, 03:14 PM
This video driver situation will affect a bunch of laptops. Windows 7 could have breathed a lot of life back into these aging tablets and notebook.
Bartman
05-10-2009, 05:58 PM
l just ran the Windows 7 upgrade advisor beta on my other M1400 that is still running Vista Business. Everything but the video driver was just fine.
Why can't Intel support the 855GE? As you stated it's a graphics controller that is used by so many other notebook systems. I cannot upgrade the graphics chip on a notebook.
mnbvcxz
05-14-2009, 01:18 PM
Hello Drchandra,
Is it possible for you to share the driver to convert M1400 to touch screen. I would like to try it. Thanks
Thinking about, and boring in my house...adquired a LE1600TS, arrived, but the ts is a imprecise screen and a expensive machine, but have installed 1,6Ghz was my objective.
Well, investigating about the connections, plugins and more... my deduction was the LE and the M models machines have the same tech...ok
, lets go...My first chance was the digitizer of the M model (is viewanywhere) in the LE...sucess...very, very easy...the second chance the M1400 with a resistive (the LE) screen installed...WOW men!!!
With a less knolegde of dms connections and a much of luck...the machine boots up in win7 and desolderind the GM915n chip (is my SO acctually),but dont works...:-((
Another days of investigating...the driver is TouchKO resistive driver, but windows seven adquires automatically the wacom driver...error, why?? I dont know, but is the reallity...
Remembering the firsts of the lines of this forum, something talk about the "drivermax" to export the working drivers to a understand file to the OS, ok, say and done...export the driver and import into the new M1400 with the TS screen....wow wow wow it works...my sunrise appears in my face and leave the chair to say "DONEEEEE!!!I´M A MONSTEER".
Results:
M1400TS THE FIRST IN THE WORLD!!
And is possible change the LE1600TS converting the screen in a digitizer(more precission) screen!!!
gamejester
05-16-2009, 12:49 PM
Drchandra - can you post the drivers you used to get finger touch working on the M1400.
Some guys over here are also trying to get their LE1600TS machines working and would also like to get hold of the driver
not allowd to post url's yet, so you will have to work it out from the below!
forum.tabletpcreview.com/showthread.php?p=157510#post157510
I have posted in the above link about getting limited sucess using the Toshiba M700 touch driver, driver takes so it should be possible if we can get the other bits to install, namely the service. Just needs someone to take apart the install and replace the computer checking bit I think as the drivers them selves can be manually added.....or work out how to get the rest of the bits installed manuualy (I tried copying the files and manually loading hte service wit -install but no luck)
magus57
06-25-2009, 06:33 AM
So I take it there hasn't been any progress in getting the Intel drivers to work? Just wondering.
Bartman
06-27-2009, 08:37 AM
None at all, they simply refuse to do it. Intel Centrino was nothing but a marketing buzz word. Millions of systems with 855GM or 900GM graphics could run Windows 7 just fine but Intel is not willing to make this happen.
All that I was able to: have it running with the unknown video controller with uninstalled drivers. Windows 7 was even able to tell me that I should ask the manufacturer of the system for a driver, how useful was this?
This is Windows 7 official Action Center response:
Compatibility issue between your Display Adapter and Windows 7
This problem was caused by a compatibility issue between your Display Adapter, which does not support DirectX 9.0 or newer, and Windows 7.
This video card was manufactured by Intel Corporation.
There is no planned update by Microsoft or Intel Corporation to address this issue.
magus57
06-27-2009, 01:05 PM
So just so I know, what exactly does this lack of compatibility mean? Is it just the lack of screen rotation? Can you still have 1024x768 resolution still be able to play games as well as on XP/Vista?
If not, I think I'll just invest in a bigger hard drive for my M1400 (the Samsung HM160HC), and dual boot XP and 7 RC, so I can get the best of both worlds.
PaulB
06-27-2009, 07:11 PM
You can still configure the 1024x768 resolution but video memory is severely crippled.
tpope
06-28-2009, 06:32 AM
So just so I know, what exactly does this lack of compatibility mean? Is it just the lack of screen rotation? Can you still have 1024x768 resolution still be able to play games as well as on XP/Vista?
No screen rotation, no brightness controls, no sleep or hibernation. Possibly poor TIP performance (speed only, not accuracy, and this may not be a video driver problem at all). No games that use any kind of hardware acceleration (data points: Crayon Physics did not work, ScummVM does, haven't tried any others).
All that said, having used Windows 7 from day one on my hand-me-down M1400 I would never even think of going back to XP.
Bartman
06-28-2009, 07:43 AM
Windows 7 is an excellent OS, l have used it on the M1400 for about two weeks. Because of the flaws with the Intel 855GM and the TIP annoyances I pulled the plug and went back to Vista with SP2 last night. It's simply more efficient for me on the M1400 than Windows 7. Windows XP is not an alternative anymore, I will stick with Windows Vista Business. Besides, everything screen related is much faster with Windows Vista (e.g. scrolling text,TIP of course, etc.) than it was with Windows 7.
I didn't liked the new TIP implementation that came with Windows 7. Correcting handwriting mistakes is much easier with Windows Vista, that is my personal opinion, of course.
Hibernation, by the way, worked very well with Windows 7 on the M1400.
maximusmeridus
06-28-2009, 08:46 AM
Well I have been running Windows 7 RC2 on my M1400 with all functionality including rotate, hibernate, standby, screen brightness etc etc
Heres how I did it
Make sure you uninstall any other Intel Drivers you have tried to install before and delete drivers then restart. Unless standard ones that came with Windows &.
1. Login as Administrator
2. Do windows button+R
3. Type without quotes:
"bcdedit.exe -set loadoptions DDISABLE_INTEGRITY_CHECKS"
press enter and type:
"bcdedit.exe /set nointegritychecks ON"
4. Download the driver I used (link below without the underscores)
w_w_w.megaupload.com/?d=2MD1523P
5. Extract them and right click the "setup.exe" and then click properties. Set the compatibility to Windows XP SP2, and place a mark at "Run as administrator".
6. Run the setup.exe and let it install. Then reboot.
7. Important! as the driver will probably no be initiated yet.
After the tablet reboots, open the device manager and right click on the display driver if it says "!" next to it. Click Properties, then OK. It will ask you to reboot again.
After this it should mean the 855GM video driver has been successfully installed :)
You can see this by checking for screen brightness in power options and hibernate/standby in Start menu.
8 . Make sure you uninstall Motion M1400 dashboard. Then restart if you have.
9. Install latest LE1600(yes LE1600! for M1400 it works very well) Dashboard below (link below without the underscores)
w_w_w.motioncomputing.com/drivers/LE1600/LE1600VISTA-MCDashboardv4405.zip
This will install Bluetooth and enable you to click rotate button etc.
"Warning" do not disable bluetooth in the dashboard or it may crash and you'll need to restart in safe mode. If you want to disable bluetooth, do this in device manager only for now.
Well thats about it. Other drivers you can get from Motion website if needed.
Auto brightness doesn't work, but one handy tip.
Go to Tablet PC properties in Control Panel and you'll see the M1400 buttons :) customise the UP to Increase Brightness and Down to Decrease brightness. Works beautifully after restart. I also set left and right to volume up/down respectively.
Good luck!
magus57
06-28-2009, 05:25 PM
Thanks, I'll have some time tomorrow to try it all out, and I'll post results.
engtab
06-28-2009, 08:31 PM
I gave this a try but no luck-can you verify that the bcd commands are exactly as you have them?
maximusmeridus
06-29-2009, 06:08 AM
Not sure why you didn't have any luck, I have done it twice, easily on two m1400 tablets.
Are you installing RC2 7201?
Remember to restart a few times. What is the device manager showing?
Right click on display drivers in device manager and upgrade by browsing to directory where you extracted the inte.zip files.
Do this for both display drives (one for internal & external monitor)
Let me know if this works
BCD commands "must" be entered as run as administrator to work
Can you tell me "what exactly" didn't work? please post everything step by step
Thanks
I gave this a try but no luck-can you verify that the bcd commands are exactly as you have them?
magus57
06-29-2009, 07:30 AM
EDIT: I just realized that I don't have my XP install disc right now, so I'd rather not try this out now, in case something goes wrong; I'll be busy all week too. And I just answered my questions with some searching, so I'm good to go, once I have the time.
SiCwan
07-07-2009, 11:18 PM
I got the video drivers installed but the Mouse pointers look weird and washed out, any idea how to fix that?
maximusmeridus
07-08-2009, 03:50 AM
Unfortunately I don't know how to fix this. I just remove mouse pointer shadows and it look fine, but not perfect. You get used to it and don't notice it after a while.
I am sure it's a quick fix, can anyone help?
magus57
07-09-2009, 03:04 AM
So I got it to work using drchandra's method, but I haven't restarted yet, so I can't comment on how permanent it is...but as soon as I have the need to restart it, I'll post results.
EDIT: Surprise, surprise - it didn't work. I still have to go from Standard to 945 drivers, followed by reboot, followed by 855 drivers to get full functionality. I guess it's not that bad; I just need to have ~10 minutes of time every time I restart my computer to set everything up.
Anyway, does anybody know how to force Aero (or at least parts of Aero) to work on the M1400? Yeah, I know it technically shouldn't work and whatnot, but I just want to be able to change the window/taskbar color...which is apparently something you can't do without Aero (IMO - stupid)...
magus57
07-09-2009, 11:39 AM
You know what, forget it - I'm done with Windows 7, at least until there's a 100% easy way to get the video drivers completely working without restarting the computer multiple times and whatnot.
And I'm not too impressed with Windows 7 anyway, so I'd probably switch back to XP even if the drivers worked; it uses more RAM and has more stuff running while idling, it's not noticeably faster in anything (including boot time...at least for me), the whole "administrator" rights and whatnot are just downright annoying, the check-marks on selected files are annoying...and I'm not sure if I have time to relearn an OS, after knowing XP like the back of my hand. Not to mention, you can't even use Aero - at least not fully.
The things I really liked, however, was the ability to copy a file and rename it instead of not copying it or overwriting the old file, if there's a file by the same name in the folder you're copying it into. That, along with the system tray that doesn't un-hide into the taskbar, the grouping of applications by icon, and the button in the bottom-right corner that takes you directly to the desktop. There might be a few other things I'm forgetting; however, everything I like combined is still simply not enough to warrant a switch to Windows 7 for me.
maximusmeridus
07-09-2009, 11:49 AM
Well what ever you're saying about Windows 7 is totally untrue. It is very easy to install these drivers, if you don't follow these instructions meticulously or not that technical then it won't work. Absolutely everything works properly and better. XP crashes, Windows 7 never does. XP staggers, Windows 7 breezes. XP has terrible power saving functionality, Windows 7 has highly customisable power saving functions. Windows 7 makes a Pentium M seem like a dual core, and trust me I have one as well! Anyone will tell you, it's a blessing and rejuvenates old technology.
Windows 7 actually uses less memory and is much faster than even Windows XP, a lot more responsive, much faster handwriting recognition and an awesome operating system.
There is absolutely no need for aero waste of time. Aero only takes graphics processing power and heats up graphics card so quite frankly unless you're vain, there is no need for it.
Anyway, you don't have to upgrade :thumb:
You know what, forget it - I'm done with Windows 7, at least until there's a 100% easy way to get the video drivers completely working without restarting the computer multiple times and whatnot.
And I'm not too impressed with Windows 7 anyway, so I'd probably switch back to XP even if the drivers worked; it uses more RAM and has more stuff running while idling, it's not noticeably faster in anything (including boot time...at least for me), the whole "administrator" rights and whatnot are just downright annoying, the check-marks on selected files are annoying...and I'm not sure if I have time to relearn an OS, after knowing XP like the back of my hand. Not to mention, you can't even use Aero - at least not fully.
The things I really liked, however, was the ability to copy a file and rename it instead of not copying it or overwriting the old file, if there's a file by the same name in the folder you're copying it into. That, along with the system tray that doesn't un-hide into the taskbar, the grouping of applications by icon, and the button in the bottom-right corner that takes you directly to the desktop. There might be a few other things I'm forgetting; however, everything I like combined is still simply not enough to warrant a switch to Windows 7 for me.
magus57
07-09-2009, 01:33 PM
I think we must be using different OS's here or something. :confused:
XP Tablet Edition, on a clean install with SP3/updates and updated drivers, idles at around 350MB's for me.
Windows 7, on a clean install of RC2 7201/updates and updated drivers, idles at around 400MB's+ for me.
I didn't record boot times for either; all I know is that I still go and do something else while I restart my computer, because it takes around two minutes to go from restart to fully-loaded desktop. Not to mention, I barely turn off my computer, so boot times don't really matter to me.
Same for battery consumption - with XP, I know I can get almost 4 hours, on acceptable brightness and doing nothing more than school work (like word processing or spreadsheets). However, since most of my classes have power outlets, battery life isn't too much of a concern for me.
GTA III/Vice City/San Andreas (pretty much the only games I play anymore) all run just as well on XP as they do on Windows 7 - neither OS gets more frames, at least not that I noticed.
I actually had Windows 7 crash on me (to the point that I had to do a clean install to get it working again) when trying to install the video drivers. I followed your guide to the detail, along with two or three other guides I found - none of them provided 100% functionality for 100% of the time. I even tried combining them a few times, with no luck either.
XP, on the other hand...well, I don't remember the last time it crashed when I wasn't tinkering around in some really sensitive areas. I don't even have system restore anymore, because nothing I've installed has ever "backfired," as least as far as I remember; that doesn't stop me from backing up my most important files, just in case (which doesn't take up too much space anyway).
I've had Windows 7 hang much more often than XP - probably due to the countless processes and services going on in 7 compared to XP.
And overall, all the normal stuff I do - file transferring, installing stuff, opening large folders, etc. - I didn't notice it being any better in 7 than XP. Same with handwriting and whatnot - it all seems the same to me. I've actually been using updated Wacom drivers for the pen, which seem to do better than the original drivers.
So unless they make some major improvements or additions in the retail version (or one of its' service packs), namely support for the video drivers, I guess you can count me out for another Windows OS. That is, unless I buy a more powerful laptop that comes preloaded with Windows 7, which I guess I wouldn't mind :rolleyes:
Oh, and if it makes a difference, my M1400 has the stock 40GB hard drive and 1.5GB's of RAM (a 1GB and a 512MB). However, if I ever upgrade it again (and I say "if" because I don't know if it'll be better to just save up and buy a newer/better tablet/laptop instead), it'll be getting a Samsung HM160HC hard drive (the fastest laptop IDE hard drive...and pretty cheap too).
On a side note: I'm kinda interested to see how that new Google OS will fare against Windows 7, at least on netbooks and other low-end PC configurations...
Hi, first time posting, just thought I add my experience. Lot of digging,tried several, if not most of the solutions I could find on the web, but still no success.
Read Maximusmeridus post here on how he got rotate to work, tried it but it did not work. So I thought I give a step by step walkthrough of his method, maybe I’m missing something. Here it is :
Make sure you uninstall any other Intel Drivers you have tried to install before and delete drivers then restart. Unless standard ones that came with Windows.
(Downloaded latest win 7 from Microsoft two day ago. Build 7100)
"bcdedit.exe -set loadoptions DDISABLE_INTEGRITY_CHECKS"
(The Result “The operation completed successfully”)
Press enter and type:
"bcdedit.exe /set nointegritychecks ON"
(The Result “The operation completed successfully”)
4. Download the driver I used (link below without the underscores)
w_w_w.megaupload.com/?d=2MD1523P
(No Issues)
5. Extract them and right click the "setup.exe" and then click properties. Set the compatibility to Windows XP SP2, and place a mark at "Run as administrator".
(No Issues).
6. Run the setup.exe and let it install. Then reboot.
7. Important! As the driver will probably no be initiated yet. After the tablet reboots, open the device manager and right click on the display driver if it says "!" next to it. Click Properties, then OK. It will ask you to reboot again. After this it should mean the 855GM video driver has been successfully installed :)
You can see this by checking for screen brightness in power options and hibernate/standby in Start menu.
Ok, this is what happens…..
Get message that it’s installing graphics driver 6.14.10.3722”.
Get a prompt to reboot. After rebooting, I went into device manager, and under display adapters the 8255 Intel graphics controller was showing with a yellow! Icon beside them.
Right clicking on them, clicking on properties and ok. Result – it did / dose nothing.
In proprieties for the driver, get the following message “Windows has stopped this device because it has reported problems. (Code 43).
Rebooted several times, no change. Can’t rotate.
Uninstalled, reinstalled driver a second time. Before rebooting – went into device manager – under display adaptors both are showing working correctly. Right Clicking, into properties and its says driver is operating correctly. Click on ok and get a prompt to restart.
After rebooting- same as a above, get the code 43 error.
8. Make sure you uninstall Motion M1400 dashboard. Then restart if you have.
Fresh install of win 7, not installed.
9. Install latest LE1600 (yes LE1600! for M1400 it works very well).
Ok, downloaded it and installed it, won’t run. Tried running it under compatibility for everything, no luck. Keep getting the message “ Sorry, this version of motion dashboard only runs on motion computing L series or MC-C5 Tablet PC’s.”
That’s as far as I got, tried it several times, either I messing up, or there is a step missing.
Thought I’d share it.
magus57
07-10-2009, 06:10 PM
...
(Downloaded latest win 7 from Microsoft two day ago. Build 7100)
...
According to maximusmeridus, that might be the problem - you need RC2, build 7201...which as far as I know, is not available officially (if you know what I mean :rolleyes:). And I'm not sure if any of the even newer builds work too (with 7264 being the newest I know of), but you can give it a shot, if you're still looking to get it to work.
Ossian
07-11-2009, 05:03 AM
Tried the above with (Technet) Build 7100 on a 1.1GHZ / 1.5GB M1400
Driver appeared to install, but can't get rid of the ! (Code 43 Driver not started or similar)
Any advice, or am I on a hiding to nothing?
magus57
07-13-2009, 05:56 AM
Just a quick question: the Windows 7 RTM (build 7600) was recently released - could it be possible, with it being the retail release, that it has improved compatibility with the video chipset? Anybody wanna find out?
keisersoze
07-15-2009, 01:05 PM
Helo, guys i just registered with the site, Great information, thanks all for sharing. I have been following this thread for a while, i have a quick question for those that got it working "100%". I followed the steps and Yes i have both drivers showing as "working correctly". But was never able to get "hardware acceleration" going. No open gl, no Direct 3D. those saying that they got it working perfectly: are you getting HW acceleration? Thanks for replying. And thanks for your great tutorials.
magus57
07-18-2009, 05:27 AM
I finally got it to work!!! After spending about 2 hours of my time (again) trying to get it to work, I finally managed to do it. And it's probably as complete as it'll ever be - the only thing I've noticed missing so far is screen resolutions other than 800x600 and 1024x768, and lack of support for portrait resolutions in games (I could be wrong - the only game I tested was GTA Vice City...which, BTW, runs pretty much identically as on XP).
Anyway, before I "spill the beans," there are two things to note:
-I did it using build 7600 of Windows 7. It may work on an earlier version, such as the RC (build 7100), but I can't guarantee that it will. Not to mention, if you download a tool called "Win 7 Toolkit 1.7," you can not only activate that 7600 build, but you can also do things such as enabling full window transparency.
-As far as I know, the drivers in the link at the bottom of the post are the only ones that work. You can try others, but again, I can't guarantee that they'll work. But these drivers actually appear to be signed, if you go through the following process.
So, here's the guide:
Upon installation of windows 7:
1. Create shortcut to cmd.exe (windows/system32)
2. Run shortcut as administrator
3. Type and press enter:
Bcdedit /set nointegritychecks on
4. Type and press enter:
Bcdedit /set loadoptions ddisable_integrity_checks
5. Go into device manager, uninstall vga standard drivers and video controller
6. Go into msconfig (windows button + r, and type "msconfig" in box that comes up); go into "boot" tab, and put checkmark on "os boot information"
7. Restart, press F8 after BIOS, go into safe mode
8. Go into device manager, right click on vga standard drivers and pick "update driver software..."
9. Choose to browse for driver, choose the "let me pick..." option, click "have disk..." button, point to "ialmnt5.inf" in "win2000" folder, and install 82852/82855 driver
10. After installation is complete, click "scan for hardware changes" and let it update itself until it simply stops updating - it'll be a minute or so after a pair of 82852/82855 drivers show up without yellow "!"'s on them
11. Restart and boot normally, windows will configure drivers, and after ~1 minute, you're good to go!And here's the link to the driver, with a readme with the same exact guide bundled together:
www (dot) mediafire (dot) com/?mymzgzj1zmu
And then to enable screen rotation, add these two entries to your registry ("regedit" in the Run command box):
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Intel\CUI\DISPLAY1\Ena bleRotation = (DWORD)1
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Intel\CUI\DISPLAY2\Ena bleRotation = (DWORD)1
(Disregard the space in the "EnableRotation" of the first one - for some reason, there a space coming up in the post, but it's not there when I'm typing it...)
And after all of this, every restart of the computer has been completely flawless, with no need to configure anything or whatnot.
Here's a pic of the Windows Experience Index after the drivers were installed (with the stock 40GB hard drive and 1.5GB's of RAM):
img394 (dot) imageshack (dot) us/img394/4372/score.jpg
Sadly, no full Aero...
PS - Does anybody know how to change the taskbar color for Aero themes? When I pick a theme with, say, a pink taskbar color, the background image changes, but the taskbar is always that light blue, no matter what I try to do.
Henk Poley
07-18-2009, 09:36 AM
Saving this as rotationfix.reg and importing that (double click) ought to work:
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Intel\CUI\DISPLAY1]
"EnableRotation"=dword:1
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Intel\CUI\DISPLAY2]
"EnableRotation"=dword:1
I also fiddled with this on my Motion M1200 (Intel 830MG), but couldn't get it to work back then. I'll look into it again.
[edit] Yay, it worked. Didn't try the .reg file method though..
keisersoze
07-18-2009, 11:05 AM
hardware acceleration working too???
magus57
07-18-2009, 11:23 AM
hardware acceleration working too???
Yup - like I said, Vice City runs just was well on Windows 7 now as it did on XP. And I double-checked under the video properties, and the slider was on full hardware acceleration by default.
keisersoze
07-18-2009, 11:45 AM
haha awesome,great news man. i did see you mentioning it about gta, but i needed to make sure cause gta will run with no h/w acc. there is a slider on settings u can set it to none and it runs on software render. i guess ill give it one more try. i need hw acceleration cause my appz are opengl hungry. anyway thank you.
cheers
Hi Magus,
thanks for sharing! haven't gotten a copy of the latest build yet. just tried your solution out on build 7100. It would not let me install the win 2000 driver. Although it was not a fresh install of win 7. I have been mucking about a lot with it so I will put a fresh install on later and try it again from scratch and let you all know if it works.
keisersoze
07-19-2009, 01:11 PM
wow! that was right on man, thanks so much. I have a good tip for those trying the Magus's steps and not being successful. TURN off User setting control Pull the slide all The way down. After 5 tries, it took only ONE try with that off. Thank you MAGUS. And oh yeah if you still Get the yellow triangles just restart it. it-did it for
magus57
07-19-2009, 06:37 PM
It's nice to know that it doesn't work just for me :biggrin1:
Anyway, I just remembered one more thing about my method, which isn't too major, but I'll mention it anyway:
The Windows Aero pointers, or pointer shadows, DO NOT work - they just make them a very fuzzy white. Just switch to "(none)" to pointers under the "Mouse" option in control panel, turn off shadows, and you're good.
keisersoze
07-20-2009, 11:55 AM
Same here I fixed it the same way you did it. Any chance you using Zbrush? I'm having problems with the cursor position under windows 7 it's badly offset. Also did you notice the huge lag on TIP after installing the penable drivers from Wacom?
without the drivers it flies, but I need them for Applications that use pressure. Did you experience any of these issues? thanks Magus!
magus57
07-20-2009, 11:59 AM
Sorry, I haven't installed any additional tablet drivers, since it seems to work fine for me, so I can't help there.
Hi guys
Just tried it with a fresh install, still no joy. But, there is something different. The Intel drivers seem to stick, they show up as installed, no yellow icons. they also stick after reboot.
But no matter what I try, I cannot get the screen to rotate. It could be that I'm screwing up somewhere, the drivers are installed, the registry entries were added, but no rotation. trying to get the latest build, and will try it again. Anyway, thanks for the info and I will keep plugging away at it.
magus57
07-20-2009, 04:26 PM
Did you add the two entries to the registry? That's the only way to get screen rotation to work; just installing the drivers the way I mentioned isn't enough. As soon as you add them to the registry and restart the computer, it should work fine.
magus57
07-21-2009, 11:07 PM
I just found a solution to the problem with the pointers:
Right-click on the desktop, pick "Screen Resolution," click "Advanced Settings," pick the "Troubleshooting" tab, and pick "Change Settings." This will bring you to a slider, where you can pick how much hardware acceleration is going on. You probably have it on "Full" by default, so just put it back one notch (or two, since neither the first or second notch away from "Full" seems to not make any difference when playing games), and now you should be able to have both Aero mouse pointers and mouse shadows without that weird fuziness.
And I haven't tested too many applications or games yet, so turning hardware acceleration down as little as the notch may make some programs work worse, or not at all.
yep,
added the entries -no joy. Will start over again, mabe I missed something. When you add the entries to the registry, dose that enable the rotate fuction in the rotation settings? All I get is primary landscape as an available option? anyway, thanks all forthe help so far. I'll keep plugging away on this.
magus57
07-22-2009, 02:57 PM
After I added those entries, an option called "Orientation" appeared under the Windows 7 Screen Resolution menu, and I had all four option available.
Did you try installing the Motion Dashboard and Buttons? It could somehow make a difference, especially if you try to rotate it with one of the buttons.
And it's a longshot, but is "Screen Rotation" enabled under Graphics Properties? If it is, try disabling it and re-enabling it and see if it makes a difference.
keisersoze
07-23-2009, 10:54 AM
I just found a solution to the problem with the pointers:
Right-click on the desktop, pick "Screen Resolution," click "Advanced Settings," pick the "Troubleshooting" tab, and pick "Change Settings." This will bring you to a slider, where you can pick how much hardware acceleration is going on. You probably have it on "Full" by default, so just put it back one notch (or two, since neither the first or second notch away from "Full" seems to not make any difference when playing games), and now you should be able to have both Aero mouse pointers and mouse shadows without that weird fuziness.
And I haven't tested too many applications or games yet, so turning hardware acceleration down as little as the notch may make some programs work worse, or not at all.
I upgrade thee to warlock57. The above worked for me flawless again. This was a nice discovery since it only changes Acceleration on the Os. All other applications should work fine. Great work thanks.
keisersoze
07-23-2009, 12:12 PM
holly crap it also Fixed the offset I mentioned earlier. thanks A million.
magus57
07-24-2009, 07:34 AM
I just remembered another thing - a great program to use with Windows 7 is a free program called "EnhanceMySe7en"
It's a nice all-in-one program that combines stuff like a registry cleaner, a disk defragmenter/cleaner, and also has plenty of customizations available for many different parts of the OS.
tpope
07-24-2009, 01:33 PM
Is anyone running this with RC1 (build 7100) or is everyone who has gotten this working upgraded to 7600?
keisersoze
07-25-2009, 04:22 PM
my advice to you Tpope: Just get 7600. it might work and lot of people got it working with 7100, i did too, but without 3d Acceleration, the drivers showed up as installed and no yellow warning triangles. But opengl and D3D was disabled. With Windows 7600 + Magus instructions + User Account Control (UAC) off = All features working. including rotation. all with one try. I tried dozens of times with 7100 and it was no go. Save the frustation get 7600. cheers.
tpope
07-26-2009, 11:06 PM
Given that it's going to kill a day (at least) to rebuild this machine again (it's my primary computer for meetings and travel) and the fact that I can't get a non-torrented copy of build 7600 (can I?) I guess I'll wait.
Good to know that this is at least going to be a viable option at some point though, thanks.
keisersoze
07-27-2009, 11:40 PM
non torrent? why what's wrong with torrents? and yes you can get it from usenet.
btw i don't konw if we can talk about this here, if not sorry admins.
tpope
07-28-2009, 08:12 AM
It's not a moral opposition really, nor anything about bittorrent, but since this is a work computer I don't want to be mucking about with unreleased copies, no matter how stable. Plus, it's a hassle, and I'd rather wait for the final release, install that and then deal with the drivers.
My M1400 is my very first tablet, and while I would like rotation, I haven't ever actually used it before. So I can do without for a couple more months.
keisersoze
07-29-2009, 02:08 PM
absolutely you right, while waiting is the best thing to do, this thread is for an unreleased OS. Most people here don't mind using RCs. On my own testing i found W7600 to be very responsive with the M1400. Everything has worked better than it ever did on Vista or Xp. My machine is heavily upgraded and and modded. I have added 2Gigs of ram, and given it a super fast 7200Rpm Drive. And most of all that really helped the performance i modded the cooling, i installed a fan with a good heatsink in place of the dumb passive cooling pipes. When i run CPUID the machine is always showing full speed even when running 3D appz. All features of the tablet worked on Windows 7 even the Finger Print reader. So if you are worried about drivers ...fear not...the biggest challenge was The Video Card. and that is also running top notch. if you handy get a fan on the cpu and you will have a very usable machine. cheers.
Keisersoze, do you have pictures of you fan mod? I wanted to put on a larger heatsink, but there is not much space to go on, so I just put on new thermal paste.
maximusmeridus
07-30-2009, 09:48 AM
Hey, how did you add a fan? and where did you buy the fan? We'd all be curious to know so some basic instructions would be great.How much of a difference in temperature did it make?
And most of all that really helped the performance i modded the cooling, i installed a fan with a good heatsink in place of the dumb passive cooling pipes. When i run CPUID the machine is always showing full speed even when running 3D appz.
keisersoze
07-30-2009, 07:37 PM
the fan is from an old laptop, I will take some pictures as soon as i can it does not fit the machine flush.it sticks out 2 mm. but it blows a lot of cool air into the CPU. I cant hardly feel the heat on idle and when overloaded only the memory side gets warm but the CPU it's cool as its OFF. The difference is huge. this CPU does not need much to be cooled off That is why they used passive cooling, but a fan keeps the CPU at 1.2 GHz all times and more than that comfortable to hold. i will post some pics and instructions soon. cheers
Hi Guys,
Got it it work with 7100. I don't really care about any of the fancy graphic, when win 7 is released I now know it will work.
the steps were just as mangus described, but with one small change.
1. Install win 7.
2. Do not update anything.
3. Device manager - scan for new hardware, when finished restart.
4. make sure win 7 has detected all hardware. So you may have to restart a few times for the generic drivers to load.
5. now follow the method described by magnus.
6. also add the registry entry.
7. restart and now run Microsoft update.
8. Afterward you should have full rotation and a few other things like button assignment.
I bet 7600 is a lot better, but for now, 7100 is just fine for me. And I now know that final release will run on my tablet. I don't know why, but I when I installed Win 7 first and then updated, the it would not work.
Anyway, thank so far to the guys here. I'm now gonna see whats the compatibly like for Autocad and a few other programs.
keisersoze
08-02-2009, 04:38 PM
I need four more posts so i can post a url to my Fan mod tutorial.
4.
keisersoze
08-02-2009, 04:38 PM
I need four more posts so i can post a url to my Fan mod tutorial.
3
keisersoze
08-02-2009, 04:39 PM
I need four more posts so i can post a url to my Fan mod tutorial.
2
soory guys...still need 2 more...
keisersoze
08-02-2009, 04:41 PM
I need four more posts so i can post a url to my Fan mod tutorial.
1 more that's it.....
keisersoze
08-02-2009, 04:42 PM
and here it is
http://photobucket.com/keisersoze?albumview=grid
sorry about that...but i think you guys could make some use of this....
cheers
magus57
08-06-2009, 04:30 PM
Thanks for the link, and although it looks pretty useful, I wouldn't be able to do it, because I'd hate to cut up the docking station to get it to fit. By the way, does using Windows 7 to set the CPU to "active" cooling and having the "minimum processor state" at 100% (both under advanced power settings) actually create a change in performance? I personally haven't noticed anything.
And another question: is there any fingerprint software that works with Windows 7 (and is preferably free)? I installed the Windows 7 Authentec drivers, and it installs fine, but it doesn't let me use the bundled software (it gives me some error). And even the Vista version of Omnipass doesn't work (it gives you errors throughout the installation).
keisersoze
08-07-2009, 11:26 PM
Setting cpu to active would make windows turn on/speed up the fans first before slowing down the cpu too keep the machine cooled. In the M1400 that feature simply wouldn't apply to either active or passive since it has no fan controller built in the board as other machines. You are right it makes no difference for us. The machine has no fan so it couldn't use that feature.
nyb72
08-11-2009, 10:05 AM
Does 7600 fix the eventual TIP lag that occurred in earlier versions?
NCX001
08-23-2009, 08:04 PM
Hey guys, thanks to the guide here I've got windows 7 enterprise edition (full final) running with rotation enabled. I am looking to get the finger print reader working though. I had it working before on Build 7600. Then it stopped recognizing it sometime after that. I needed to make my install legit so I reinstalled with the final Enterprise version. Rotation works, but no finger print. I've tried the Asus finger print reader drivers, but they didn't work. Ideas?
Hello,
Strange Things, on My 7600 ultimate, juste did windows update and the finger print reader include in Se7en work perfectly.
Have you done a Win update?
Haze
ben heyst
09-09-2009, 05:12 AM
Hey everybody,
First, greetings from Berlin, Germany.
I have a few units of the LE1600TS, the touch screen model and I cant find the driver for the touch screen.
Its should be a "TouchKO Resistive Digitizer driver"
I have been looking for days now, but no results.
can anybody please help on that?
Maybe you can post up a link or just email it to me.
Thanks a million for all your help,
Ben
magus57
09-22-2009, 10:14 PM
Hey guys, I had to reinstall Windows 7 after some weird graphical issues (due to me messing something up while trying to optimize it), and I've got two things to mention:
1. For some reason, I couldn't get my method to work when installing Home Premium (instead of Ultimate) - while it looked like I had full Aero, everything was very slow, and it looked like I had 8-bit color or something. The only solution was installing Ultimate. I'm guessing Ultimate has something extra that Home Premium doesn't that allows the video drivers to work after my process, so don't be surprised if when you install the retail Windows 7 Home Premium that it might not work correctly.
2. I was able to get fingerprint capability simply through Windows Update, and now I can log in with my fingerprint and manage my fingerprint data.
tpope
09-23-2009, 09:58 AM
Interesting comment on #1, as I was unable to get the video drivers to work on Professional (build 7600). I intend to try again at some point, but where I ended up was actually worse than where I started with the RC. Not only does it still not sleep or hibernate, but it seems to never turn off the display at all, despite power settings.
crapman
10-01-2009, 07:37 AM
Hello everybody, this is my first post and since I bought my motion 1400 have read the whole motion forum, very impressive!
anyway, I got myself a used M1400, upgraded it to 60 HD, 2GB and installed Windows 7, new install. After 5 days of tweaking, re-reading, and video driver pain, i thought you would like to know my experience:
I followed this forum guides to install video drivers with no avail.Yesterday I realize I was on Bios 04, so upgraded to 05 and installed vista dashboard for 1600.
Suddenly the drivers show, but I still don't have the rotation option (the regedit fix is applied, although I only show one display) and the resolution can't be changed. At least I have brightness and hybernate options. any suggestions on how to get the screen rotation?This is what I needed it in the first place...
Thanks in advance.
Crapman
magus57
10-01-2009, 09:11 AM
Firstly, did you install Windows 7 Ultimate? And secondly, did you follow the guide I posted exactly?
mgeiser
10-01-2009, 09:40 AM
I really want to go to Win7, but not having the hotkey screen rotation is giving me pause...
thx
magus57
10-01-2009, 12:10 PM
If you do it according to my method, making sure that it's Windows 7 Ultimate, you get ALL of the features you normally have in XP, as far as I know. I DO know that includes full use of all of the buttons (including some extra stuff you can't do in XP) and the ability to use the Motion Dashboard with Wifi and Bluetooth.
crapman
10-01-2009, 03:40 PM
Thanks Magus, yes I followed your guide. I'm using Win 7 ultimate 7600. As I mentioned it recognizes the drivers, got sleep and hibernate in the shutdown menu, but in the video resolution panel it gives me 3 pull downs:
display - 1- digital flat panel (1024 x 768 60hz) on intel 82852/82855GM/GME Graphics...
resolution - weird flattened button, when clicked it shows the slider cut in half, no way to move it, no text...
multiple displays - extend desktop to this display
so that's it. in the regedit:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Intel\CUI\DISPLAY EnableRotation Reg_dword 0x00000001
So i have restarted several times and no rotation. The motion dashboard tells me it only works in LE machines, any ideas?
Thanks again!
Crapman
magus57
10-01-2009, 04:52 PM
Wait, are you sure you entered both registry entries, and included the "1" or the "2" at the end of "DISPLAY" at each?
If you did, then I honestly don't know what the problem is. And oddly enough, when I recently re-installed Windows 7 Ultimate (7600), I got rotation to work without even adding the registry entries. Just a quick question - did you install or alter anything before or while getting the video drivers to work? Or even update Windows?
crapman
10-01-2009, 08:19 PM
Wait, are you sure you entered both registry entries, and included the "1" or the "2" at the end of "DISPLAY" at each?
that's one of the questions, there was only one display entry in the registry, so should I add the second display myself?
If you did, then I honestly don't know what the problem is. And oddly enough, when I recently re-installed Windows 7 Ultimate (7600), I got rotation to work without even adding the registry entries. Just a quick question - did you install or alter anything before or while getting the video drivers to work? Or even update Windows?
The only thing that changed is that I updated the BIOS from 04 to 05, and installed the dashboard for vista.
Maybe I should reinstall win 7, but makes me wonder if it's worth it, I can rotate pdf's my main use for the tablet.
thanks for the quick response
Crapman
magus57
10-01-2009, 08:33 PM
Yes, add the registry entry, and after rebooting, it should change to have rotation. If not, try re-installing Windows 7 if you can.
mgeiser
10-14-2009, 11:14 AM
I have Win7 Ult installed. I'm trying to get the Dashboard and butttons working:
When I installed the Motion Dashboard 4.4.0.5, I get a continuous "Motion Computing uniTool has stopped working" message. I had to uninstall.
Any ideas on getting the Dashboard and hot buttons working?
I also noticed that before I installed the video drivers, Hibernate was enable but Sleep was disable. Now both are disabled.
mgeiser
10-14-2009, 02:07 PM
I restarted (I may **not** have restarted after uninstalling the Motion LE1600 Dashboard :doh:), sleep and Hibernate are again available.
I still need to get the side buttons, bluetooth and Dashboard working...any suggestions appreciated
TIA
Geezer
mgeiser
10-15-2009, 09:46 AM
I now have this wierd cursor - it looks like the shadow is messed up. I thought I remembered seeing something on this but I can't find it now. Anyone knopw what this issue is
To summarize:
I can't use the Dashboard
My cursor is messed up
any help appreciated
mgeiser
10-15-2009, 10:05 AM
I found magnus57's post on pushing back the hardware acceleration a notch to get rid of the fuzziness on the cursor,
I am still not able to run teh dashboad.
The 1600 dashboard give the continuous uniTool error and if you push that window aside and run the dashboard, the message says the Dashboard only runs on L series or C5 tablets
magus57
10-15-2009, 04:14 PM
For the LE1600 dashboard - did you install the original M1400 dashboard first?
That's what I do - install the M1400 dashboard, restart, then install the LE1600 dashboard, and when it comes to the install menu, you'll have the option to "repair" (which is the option you choose) or "uninstall." When you "repair" you're basically overwriting a few files and adding some others, while keeping the M1400 "compatibility" files. After another restart, it should work normally.
mgeiser
10-16-2009, 07:33 AM
I'm still getting the uniTool message and the
On the motion Dashboard setup, I get an option to Modify or Remove; no Repair and there are are no further wizard screens after I select Modify.
Did you do this in safe mode?
Did you use the LE1600 Vista Motion Dashboard 4.4.0.5?
magus57
10-16-2009, 07:40 AM
Sorry, Modify is what I did, which worked for me. And I used the most recent version of both dashboards, which I'm pretty sure is what you're using.
Try uninstalling the dashboards completely, and removing as many registry entries as you can too. And install everything else first, if you haven't already (buttons, wifi, etc.). Install the M1400 dashboard, which I think will be for XP and require XP compatibility mode to properly install. Restart, then install the LE1600 dashboard (Modify), and restart. If it doesn't install correctly, try installing with Vista compatibility mode.
If it doesn't work after you're done all of that, then I honestly don't know what the problem could be.
mgeiser
10-16-2009, 09:16 AM
After you install the Dashboard, does the app actually start or do you just get the screen rotate off the bezel button?
magus57
10-16-2009, 09:27 AM
As far as I know, the buttons and the dashboard are separate of each other - you need specific drivers for the buttons.
And for me, all of the dashboard works for me after the installation I mentioned.
mgeiser
10-18-2009, 04:36 PM
After the first time I installed the Dashboard, the rotate worked but I can't get the Dashboard running to set the buttons or turn on the bluetooth
When I install the XP M1400 Dashboard, there is no Dashboard icon. I install in XP SP3 compatibility mode and run the install program as an administrator
I install the Vista LE1600 Dashboard as Vista SP2 and run the install program as an administrator. The MOtion Dashboard icon is there, but I get the mciTools error and when I run the Dashboard, teh program tells me the software only works on t he LE and C5.
Any thoughts?
crapman
10-24-2009, 11:58 AM
Hi everybody,
I have an update, last time I posted I heard needed to reinstall Windows 7. Finally I did, redo the steps and no dice. After 2 days in my dispair I went to this site: www(dot)groundstate(dot)net/855GMWin7.html and downloded some drivers. They worked!!
Finally got all functionality, rotation, all buttons worked with the 1700 buttons update.
Anyway, yesterday after one day of happiness at start up the screen flickered, like changing resolutions, and went dark with high contrast. After I while, I restarted in safe mode. Reinstalled Magus' drivers and now it works fine, but lost all rotation, etc.
Ovbiouslly the divers are bad, but my M1400 doesn't take Magus drivers, but the old other ones work. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance!!
Crapman
MH32U
11-04-2009, 05:14 PM
Hello everyone!
I just found this thread; lots of great information here. I've managed to get Windows 7 up and running on my 1400; rotation and dashboard. Unfortunately, during the 1st windows update I performed, I opted to get the Motion tablet PC upgrade thinking this would be a good thing. When my system finished re-booting, the dreaded Motion Unitool message came up. I've still got rotation, but I cannot get the dashboard to come up. As such, I think I've lost bluetooth connectivity as well. Any ideas how to undo the Motion update?
I uninstalled the dashboard, and re-installed it thinking this would help. Now I get a big box that tells me that this Motion software doesn't work with my current operating system. Any help woiuld be greatly appreciated...
MH32U
11-06-2009, 10:16 AM
Okay,
I got it fixed. I installed Win 7 version of dashboard for LE1700. Dashboard is obviously different from the M1400 version, but all functionality is there. Bluetooth works again and everything!! I'm one happer camper today...:biggrin1:
jgermuga
11-17-2009, 10:14 AM
A word of caution. I tried the LE1700 dashboard and it completely hosed the Intl graphics. May want to do a backup before trying this. I swithced over to wireless N and no longer have BT, so I am really not missing the dashboard.
There is one thing I was hoping to get working though. Has anyone gotten the Intellisonic software to run? I don't see much mention of it.
Also, I have tried the alternate fingerprint software, but much preferred omnipass. Has anyone tried other alternatives besides the recommend (was it asus) replacement earlier in the thread?
lamder
12-23-2009, 01:47 AM
Hi All,
I am new to my m1400 and the this immensely useful forum. I took the plunge of
installing windows 7. Thought I'd shared some findings and issues I encountered
along the way.
Magnus' post and drivers were really helpful. Using Windows 7 Ultimate really
helped. Tried Windows 7 Enterprose, but couldn't get the display drivers to
properly install without the yellow triangle (hence no rotation).
Follow Magnus' steps carefully. I find it helpful to put the video drivers
folder and the bcdedit commands (in a batch file) on my USB key. After running
the bcdedit comands, I ran msconfig first, uninstall video controller, then
uninstall standard VGA adapter coz the last step prompts for reboot which I can
gladly do.
Couldn't get hibernate/sleep to work for the longest time. But when I installed
the intel wireless driver from motion computing (LE1600-WLANIntelv1009039),
sleep/hibernate magically appeared! (I believe I unzipped the bundle, configure
the setup.exe to run as administrator and in XP SP2 compatibility mode)
I thought I got over my last showstopper. But when I installed photoshop CS4, I
found that the brushes are _not_ pressure sensitive (they are fine for
sketchbook pro however). Some other poster mentioned about this too, but said
he had to adjust the pen feel from firm to soft. I didn't see this in my
tablet-related settings in my control panel, figure I needed to install the
wacom drivers. So I downloaded and installed 5.05.7, got a new control panel to
adjust pen firmness among other things. This time photoshop cs4 starts up, and
whenever the app is in focus, my tablet area seems to be mapped to a tiny
fraction of the screen (top left) and in reverse!. (hard to explain, but
imaging being able to struggle to access the file,edit menus, but not being
able to reach the lower portions of the file menu and not being able to right
the window close button on the top right no matter where you place the pen).
Re-calibration didn't help. Each time I switch away from photoshop, the correct
tablet input area to screen area mapping returns. Was it ill-advised to install
the wacom drivers? Is anyone able to get photoshop with pressure-sensitivity
running on windows 7 on m1400?
Thanks
-Vic
saxblue
01-10-2010, 10:28 PM
Just wondering if anyone had figured out a straightforward way of getting rotation enabled on the m1400. This is severely cramping my style for note taking.
irresponsiblekid
01-18-2010, 02:41 AM
hey all,
been using this thread for a week and finally got w7 rolling on my m1200!
every time i hibernate or sleep it though, it reverts to 800x600>.. any ideas?
rollerbabe
01-31-2010, 12:39 PM
Hello
I recently bought an m1400 and found this thread. After some trial and error I finally got Win7 going on the m1400. Here is a link to a driver pack I threw together from all the helpful posts here: megaupload(dot)com/?d=XLORRWN2
It contains
- wireless nic driver
- video driver with instructions on how to install + rotation registry fix
- audio driver
- modem driver
- win7 update for fingerprint sensor
- button driver
After installing everything in this order my tablet functions as it did in xp, with the exception of when i hit the dashboard button it brings up the Windows Mobility Center instead of the Motion Dashboard
Cheers!
Grindboy
02-10-2010, 12:18 PM
Could a moderator please tell us if the link is valid or not. Not that I don't trust rollerbabe but I'm naturally cautious.
muntu
03-15-2010, 01:20 AM
that is a most excellent pack!
thank you very much!
Ramze33
03-30-2010, 05:10 AM
I have just installed windows 7 Ultimate on M1400 (512 ram) its was running perfectly before I installed the updates. now it runs very slow, What should i do?
should i reinstall the OS and then not install the updates?
PaulB
03-30-2010, 05:21 AM
512MB is pretty low. I would consider upgrading to 1GB at least -- less disc caching of memory as well.
What is the disk capacity of your machine? Plenty of drive space? Hard drives in the M1400 can be upgraded to at least 250GB with a Western Digital drive.
Ramze33
03-30-2010, 06:13 AM
512MB is pretty low. I would consider upgrading to 1GB at least -- less disc caching of memory as well.
What is the disk capacity of your machine? Plenty of drive space? Hard drives in the M1400 can be upgraded to at least 250GB with a Western Digital drive.
thanks for you reply
the Hard drive is 40gb, I think ram upgrade is 1gb max and its hard to find
but will it make much difference? when i first installed windows 7, it ran really good but then i installed the updates and now is running slow. should i reinstall and then not run the updates?
thanks again :)
Tommy43
05-30-2010, 12:37 PM
Hello!
I have upgraded an 5-year old M1400 to 2 Gb Ram and a harddisk with 160 Gb and then installed Win 7 home premium. This forum helped me, thank you! Awesome that this old machine works so fine with a system which is 5 years younger.
This system is running faster than the former XP-system. The writing recognition is much more comfortable and works fine with MS Word, so that I don't tap no more, but write with the stylus. Together with onenote I use it for machine for work. for example in conferences.
By the way: The folder for MS Office and espacially onenote is the dropbox-folder and so I sync all my PCs automatically. All new notices are up to date over all.
Greetings from germany!
Tommy
Ramze33
06-01-2010, 08:48 AM
hi Tommy43
where did you buy the ram and the hdd for then tablet??
thanks
Tommy43
06-02-2010, 12:23 PM
hi Tommy43
where did you buy the ram and the hdd for then tablet??
thanks
Hi Ramze33!
I cannot post urls, because don´t have more than 15 posts: Go to memoryxxl.net and search on this site m1400 and you get both: ram and hdd
shipping costs worldwide + 25€....
greetings from germany!
Tommy
jgermuga
07-19-2010, 01:56 PM
Just wanted to let some folks know I have gotten an official Win 7 Home Premium install working with the video drivers (previously had RC working great, but time was up...) It took 2 tries installing in compatiability mode and the registry entries must be completed to get the rotate working. I took out Bluetooth in favor of wireless N, so the dashboard is not so important to me. The last thing I was hoping to get working was the fingerprint reader. Running the Asus drivers as mentioned earlier in the thread enables the swipe option at the log in prompt, but when I go to the Win 7 biometric devices to register my digits, it say no devices are avaiable, even though I can see it reported as working in the device manager. I'll post if I do happen to get it working.
The m1400 is still kicking after 5 years. Sadly, there is nothing to be done about battery life. Put in an SSD hoping it would help out, but I didn't notice much of a difference.
The new offerings from Motion look nice in the feature dept, but I can stomach dropping so much $$ on a new machine which is not substantially smaller. Plus, I like the screen proportions of xga better. For some reason, the wxga screens which come on pretty much every new model seem too narrow and cramped for notetaking.
kalel681
08-09-2010, 10:30 AM
A quick question about installing Win 7 on the 1400. I don't have an external CD drive for mine as of yet. Was wondering if it's possible to install using a virtual drive program?
Thanks.
norcimo1400
09-01-2010, 11:02 AM
A quick question about installing Win 7 on the 1400. I don't have an external CD drive for mine as of yet. Was wondering if it's possible to install using a virtual drive program?
Thanks.
just use a USB stick..You can install windows 7 from a USB. Microsoft makes a program that will copy the installation disk to a USB drive. Search for it on google.
norcimo1400
09-01-2010, 11:06 AM
I have succesfully installed Windows 7 ULT on my M1400
NEW UPGRADED WIFI , INTEL 2915ABG WIFI. Simply its a better WIFI overall, no drop outs.
Windows 7 ULTIMATE. Tablet Tools from Windows
Finger print login WORKS
Pen pressure sensitive WORKS. hand writting recognition WORKS
WIRELESS works, internal NIC works, internal Modem WORKS
Audio, Mic in WORK, built in MIC WORK, audio out WORKS, Speakers WORKS
USB WORKS, with camera, usb pen drives, printers.
Motion Buttons WORKS..Currently using Windows 7 Tablet Tool Manager.
ROTATION of the screen WORKS.
External VGA Port WORKS!
Dual screen mode WORKS!
Sleep function WORKS
Full video acceleration! WORKS!
Installed W7 on a SSD 32g CF drive, The tablet is totally revived!
I have not been able to install any of the Motion Dashboard software.. it says version issue not made for this model.. any thoughts? I read somewhere on how to over come that.
muntu
10-13-2010, 07:37 PM
I have succesfully installed Windows 7 ULT on my M1400
NEW UPGRADED WIFI , INTEL 2915ABG WIFI. Simply its a better WIFI overall, no drop outs.
Windows 7 ULTIMATE. Tablet Tools from Windows
Finger print login WORKS
Pen pressure sensitive WORKS. hand writting recognition WORKS
WIRELESS works, internal NIC works, internal Modem WORKS
Audio, Mic in WORK, built in MIC WORK, audio out WORKS, Speakers WORKS
USB WORKS, with camera, usb pen drives, printers.
Motion Buttons WORKS..Currently using Windows 7 Tablet Tool Manager.
ROTATION of the screen WORKS.
External VGA Port WORKS!
Dual screen mode WORKS!
Sleep function WORKS
Full video acceleration! WORKS!
Installed W7 on a SSD 32g CF drive, The tablet is totally revived!
I have not been able to install any of the Motion Dashboard software.. it says version issue not made for this model.. any thoughts? I read somewhere on how to over come that.
I am interested in how you went about these two issues:
Full video acceleration! WORKS!
External VGA Port WORKS!
norcimo1400
10-14-2010, 07:31 AM
go here:
http://www.tabletpcbuzz.com/showthread.php?38077-Windows-7-drivers-for-m1400-latest-from-Intel-.4497-package-14.19.50
fonix232
10-15-2010, 01:38 AM
Okay I've just registered here to ask this. In my last 3 days I was trying to install the drivers without luck. Now I'm at a point where Win7 installs the drivers every boot, and after 10-15 mins of struggling, it installs then switches back to VGA drivers. I've tried all possible written solutions from here. Any idea?
PaulB
10-19-2010, 12:50 PM
Were the instructions at the link in the previous post red? There are no GM855 drivers for Win7 so a hack is necessary. I would follow the supplied directions at the link *to the letter*. I ran into all sorts of difficulty when I had an M1400. I no longer have a M1400 to test on.
Roger Gustavsson
09-03-2012, 08:11 AM
Hi,
I ran the "Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor" on my M1400. It said the M1400 was not compatible with Windows 7! I have not read the whole thread but it seems that you have been able to run Windows 7 anyway. Is there anything special that has to be done or can I as a layman do it?
My M1400 is just used for audio, recording music in the field. I have two LE1700 too but they use to stay at home, the M1400 with its cover is better on the go.
norcimo1400
09-03-2012, 08:41 AM
Sorry, I don't know what could be the problem.
I even had to remove the video drivers, many people just could not get it to work.
However, I do have a HD image with the complete installation of windows 7.< i don't recal the version, i thinkgs its pro. what folks have been doing is send over the 1400, and I reimage it with a working version. Its a guess game, at that time I had created 3 different images, which one will work, well can't say until I try. IT's time consuming and there is a fee. Please prv. MSG me if you wish to service it.
Hi,
I ran the "Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor" on my M1400. It said the M1400 was not compatible with Windows 7! I have not read the whole thread but it seems that you have been able to run Windows 7 anyway. Is there anything special that has to be done or can I as a layman do it?
My M1400 is just used for audio, recording music in the field. I have two LE1700 too but they use to stay at home, the M1400 with its cover is better on the go.
Roger Gustavsson
03-27-2013, 08:21 AM
Sorry, I don't know what could be the problem.
I even had to remove the video drivers, many people just could not get it to work.
However, I do have a HD image with the complete installation of windows 7.< i don't recal the version, i thinkgs its pro. what folks have been doing is send over the 1400, and I reimage it with a working version. Its a guess game, at that time I had created 3 different images, which one will work, well can't say until I try. IT's time consuming and there is a fee. Please prv. MSG me if you wish to service it.
I have managed to install Windows 7 Pro! Most of the functionallity is working. There are still two problems:
1. Video playback i stuttering. Have used different video drivers, 6.14.10.3722 and 6.14.10.3691. There were problems installing the drivers at first. Some say driver 6.14.10.4656 is the one to use.
2. Rotating the screen is not working. There is a window showing it but nothing happens. I just hate having the USB pointing downwards.
Everything else seeem to work faster than with XP. There are 2 GB of RAM in my M1400. No problem with video playback in XP.
Roger
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