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wallen
05-14-2007, 12:12 AM
If the fan speeds up after it locks up (rather than already being flat out before it locks), it could be a process hammering the CPU, and the heat it generates causes the fan to kick in. Is it completely unresponsive i.e. frozen?

Also, I'm assuming it's still under warranty if it has a hardware fault?

PR.
05-14-2007, 10:34 PM
From my understanding, when the machine hard locks the fans kick up to full speed, I assume this is a precaution in case the fans aren't recieving the correct tempreture information.

The only times mine has hard locked is when using MS VirtualPC 2007

wynand32
05-19-2007, 06:05 PM
My experience lately with my M400-4034 (2GHz Core 2 Duo) is the same locking up-fan issue, which happens once every few days, and a subtle increase in heat. I run Vista, and I've been noticing a deterioration in performance with continued (and increasing) spikes in CPU utilization.

Just today, the CPU is hotter than I can remember. And, when I first got the unit (and under both Vista and Win XP), I remember remarking on how _cool_ the system was running.

Very strange.

TomTanida
06-05-2007, 04:21 PM
This sounds similar, if not identical, to a problem I had with my M400. I resolved the issue by taking the computer in under warranty and having the system board replaced.

I researched M400 hang/freeze issues and I did find the thread here http://www.tabletpcbuzz.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=33523. At the end one poster (named Brick) also seemed to have a similar problem but there was no clear resolution.

Basically the symptoms are this:
When the computer is jostled, it hangs. About 5 seconds later, the fan kicks up to full speed.

I found I could reproduce the issue at any phase of computer power on- e.g. during the boot sequence before Windows loaded- so I knew the problem was a hardware error. It was independent of RAM and hard drive. In fact, I learned I could reproduce it at will by putting a little bit of pressure with my finger on the bottom of the computer near the center screw, to the lower right of the hard drive panel (when you look at the bottom of the computer with the hard drive panel in the upper left). I only had to do it once and with a little bit of pressure- I could even make it happen on the "TOSHIBA" opening screen.

(I can also admit now that in violation of warranty, I actually dismantled my entire M400 down to the motherboard and LCD monitor and determined that even the slightest pressure/bending on the lower left end of the motherboard would cause a hang.)

I called Toshiba tech support (after putting my computer back together in a way to make it look like I hadn't opened it up :D). They checked my warranty and found it was expiring at the end of May, (which seemed odd because I had bought it in March of 2006 with a 1 year warranty) so they had me take it into a service center (rather than hassle me on the phone with useless suggestions), although the service center the Indian gave me was not actually a laptop repair center, but the place I called was so used to getting incorrect referrals they had the proper place's contact information. The service center replaced the motherboard.

The only problem I had with the Toshiba service center was that I talked to the tech on May 31 (the day my warranty was expiring) and said "I'd like to extend my warranty". He told me I could do that when I picked up the machine... which I did today, actually. Guess I shouldn't have believed the tech, because when I asked about renewing, the rep there said Toshiba has gotten very strict about when you can renew- you must do it within your warranty period, therefore I can't do it now. :-( Otherwise the service center did a good job and their work is covered for 30 more days.

Hopefully I won't see any more problems anyway, but I'm left wondering if there was a design flaw on original Toshiba M400 motherboards that has been fixed, or is still potentially emergent (e.g. a year from now). My M400 is still a viable, usable machine (in terms of computing power) and fits my needs exactly.

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