Test your rig to see if it can run Vista. I passed everything except for the video card. I tested the M1300 no need of testing my M1200.Because if the video card failed the test for the M1300' the M1200 will do the same.

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3672_7-6671810.html
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If anybody has tried the test' could you post back some results ?

LE1600 Passed everything except for video card!!! .... omg.

I'm currently running the final RTM of Vista on the 1600. I really like the interface. Aero is not an option due to the video card. Also Vista is a resource hog. My machine is maxed out at 1.5gb RAM and Vista is noticeably slower than XP. Msft says 2gb RAM for Vista and they mean it.

quote:Originally posted by Hitchikr

I'm currently running the final RTM of Vista on the 1600. I really like the interface. Aero is not an option due to the video card. Also Vista is a resource hog. My machine is maxed out at 1.5gb RAM and Vista is noticeably slower than XP. Msft says 2gb RAM for Vista and they mean it.


You were only supposed to post your results from the cnet website test and speak nothing else in this thread..read the topic! Anyways Aero theme works. Dont listen to him, hes probably using vista for the first time, i posted about vista ages ago, and this guy is lieing to you all without any proof or i think he is confused himself. Sorry I cant tolerate nonsense on the forum. Also i cannot post screenshots because I am using XP right now because i hate reinstalling an operating system everytime a new beta came out. Also Vista Ultimate is way faster than XP although that 1.5GB RAM is very necessary. Also make sure you run the Tablet on full strenght. Go to Control Panel -> Power Options and select the always on power scheme. This will cause your tablet to heat up a lot. To avoid overheating and the blue screen of death use an external fan to keep the back of your tablet pc cool. This way vista will run stable. It boots up really fast. Way faster than XP. Omnipass doesnt work on vista. I ruined vista one day trying to make omnipass run on it. Do not try to get around the cdkey activation or else you might have to cleanup the entire system and you will only have a chance to backup your files. So buy Windows Vista and enjoy it for 5-10 years i believe. Your tablet pc is designed well enough to run for 10 years in the world. Thats its life. Vista will stay in the market maybe 1 year or 5 years or 10 years.

Enjoy. :D

Vista runs great with 1Gz CPU, 1GB RAM and 7200 rpm hard drive trio(essential 3rd component as much as anything else). Next add the cpu meter gadget to sidebar and do whatever necessary to get OS idle down to 10-20% range.

Takes work, a commitment that its possible dismissing ALL perpetual misinformation otherwise, and learning the value and nearly all performance resolution answers Task Manager can provide just by using it and learning what to do reclaiming speed.

Its no different than optimizing XP, just much greater importance with lower hardware specs running Vista. Any CPU pegged at 100% will be horribly slow no matter how much horsepower, fastest and loaded tablet currently money can buy included.

AGAIN, Aero transluceny effect hardware minimums have absolutely nothing to do with Vista hardware minimums to run well otherwise.

quote:Originally posted by bmhome1
Vista runs great with 1Gz CPU, 1GB RAM and 7200 rpm hard drive trio (essential 3rd component as much as anything else).My LE1600c passed the Vista test. I would prefer, however, to upgrade its hardware before loading the new OS. I could certainly use your help in this regard so here are my questions:

I haven't heard of any processor upgrades so I am stuck with the slower 1GHz Celeron, right?

I have previously upgraded the memory from 512MB to the supposed maximum of 1.25 GB (does anyone here need a 256 MB module?). I read here that a 2GB upgrade is possible for the LE1600. Does this apply to the LE1600c as well?

I am still running the stock 30GB hard drive. I would like to install a faster, more so than a larger, hard drive though I realize the two usually go together. Both the additional power requirements and the increased heat dissipation are acceptable in my situation, assuming it does not prove to be inherently harmful to the computer. I read here that 7200RPM drives are available. Does anyone have the relevant specifications for LE1600c compatible drives in this class? Better yet, does anyone have specific model recommendations? Furthermore, are these drives available with larger, and possibly expandable, caches?

Unfortunately, the LE series tablet switched to smaller 1.8" drives, a huge blunder since there are so few options currently for upgrading their dismal performance compared to even 4200 rpm 2.5" drives. Check out Lenovo X41 forum discussions complaining about the same issue with Lenovo choosing the 1.8" drive also.

There will be improved specs and higher rpm 1.8" drives in the future, but nothing yet besides larger GB ones sold. Be aware that not all 1.8" drives use common interface, be sure to get right type.

But don't let that limitation be an excuse to avoid Vista, it just requires careful atention to maintaining speed otherwise.

Give Vista PLENTY of free partition space. 20GB is bare minimum (any version upgrades require 12GB free to even install) for Vista's enormous dependance on paging files access unhindered split up all over a fragmented space. 30GB will greatly improve drive access slowdown issues.

If I had 1.8" I would give 40GB and defrag several times a week. Accessing new large files written, same day. 2-3% starts to drag Vista. The default tool won't even run below 5-10%, a major flaw. Defragging when just 1-3% takes seconds instead of much longer as higher and higher.

PerfectDisk's free beta Vista defragment trial is a must-have for quality Vista system speed health. It's a bargain right now for only $20 with defragmentvistanow discount code entered at checkout.

The great thing about running Vista on marginal resource hardware is that it lets one know emphatically anything causing slowdowns, yet responds equally fast rebounding when removed. Not for the whiner always frustrated but great payback aproaching otherwise.

As with everything in life its far easier to be lazy and remain ignorant than to find constructive advice, invest time and effort and seek only positive attitude, rejecting negativity-orientated myths and nonsense still too prelevent concerning Vista, ironically spread by those with zero experience.

The greater the depth and level with Vista, the dismissal rate inversely declines. Anyone trashing Vista mixes bias and knowledge issues into mostly opinion cobbled together from low-experience levels without merit and forum inappropriate. Knowing nothing about a subject, here is the last possible place to pretend otherwise.

Incredulous to those who know otherwise always only from investing effort. A few here have been running Vista well a year back even using early bug-ridden betas hobbled with debugging code. That's when Vista consumed speed. Now the RC and RTM and very near retail releases are another dimension of speed. Think FASTER than XP.

One extremely effective technique to keep Motion tablets running at full speed when practical on AC power is to always use a USB cooling pad to keep internal hardware temperatures below the threshold where power cycling kicks in to lower temps by cutting CPU speed. Even RAM runs slower in hotter environments, a hot slate always feels sluggish compared to same cooler, easy discerned just by turning off the cooling pad for a while and letting heat return.

My 1300 runs indefinetly at nearly no heat felt anywhere (a screen cool feels so much nicer writing on) when joined to a Targus Tornado Chill Pad below on AC power for long session use. Anything CPU intensive added also and its a no-brainer for operating performance and stability gains, the best small investment payback possible.

It fits exactly the 1300 dimensions (probably as close for LE1600) and costs $20 at Walmart or $12 on eBay. Runs pretty quiet for significant benefits provided while using one.

Reject predictable misinformation they don't work by armchair airflow theorists whenever they're dared suggested. Such gentle airfow that has no effect on laptop venting or internal fans, whether blowing up or drawing down, including any other issues imagined shouldn't work so effectively, but they do.

Personally, success reports contradicting common perceptions always have credibility for both the bravery in bothering at all and only outcome now one being right, trying success route never fails, no matter how unconventional. From that tradition I only report success proven with repeated results over months use minimum and with total conviction. But crafting any such controversional posting is unbelievably time-consuming and daunting. The conventional wisdom has to be addressed before even getting into alternatives, then hows and whys not worth effort unless concise. Technical writing clearly for unknown knowledge audiences is as hard as one can imagine. Doubtful more than few have any concept even to ever consider. Any reward from doing has no possibilty to balance energy expended beyond selfless desire to share. The appreciation of others before (too many disappearing probably from burnout) fuels me still.

I lost as many epic posts here from the server crash as anyone else with countless hours posting detailed reports on success with numerous summerlong Vista beta series tips and hints, each as long as this one, but no interest investing all that effort again without dialogue and shared responses growth resulting. It's discouraging posting and getting 1,000 views with a single response encouraging more details about things no one else on any Vista forums addressing elsewhere at the time. "You suck" would have better than nothing at all.

Vista is coming and fast and better discussed before tidal wave of problems and complaints crests. There's SO much more than drivers, UAC taming and file ownership dominating everything.

For example, I've been investigating a beta technique for slashing Vista's 2.7GB DVD installer that grows into an over 10GB default OS down to a 1100MB installer that becomes only 2-3GB OS, still keeping almost all features appropriate for tablets (over 1GB chopped not installing Far East languages as example).

It's very exciting potential for putting Vista on a tablet actually smaller than XP installed. Still needs much more trialing, but virtually future certain option, putting Vista on a much needed diet, especially for hardware discarding actually unusable feature bloat requiring desktop horsepower.

It's an involved, long dialogue I would jumpstart as long not just ending up another talking into empty space deadend. We could have so much energy here with more than only the few willing.

A USB cooling pad' that is new to me. Give me the lowdown on that.

Spankyw2,

There are lots of versions of this idea - a plate or pad with one or more fans built-in. The fans are powered from the USB port of your Tablet. The fans cool the Tablet.

Here are some examples.

http://www.thermaltake.com/product/cooler/nbcooling/cl-o0004/cl-o0004.asp

http://www.a1-electronics.net/PcHardware/Various/2005/2nd/PrimeCooler_CoolPad_July.shtml

Wow' good stuff. As you already know'the M1200 and M1300 heats up in the back. And one time I had a shutdown warning because the tablet got so hot' on my M1300.

I have one of those USB gooseneck fans which I use for myself, but when the tablet gets hot, it helps.

Spanky,

Recheck my post added to, the Targus model fits our 1200-1300 series dimensions almost perectly.

quote:Originally posted by bmhome1

Spanky,

Recheck my post added to, the Targus model fits our 1200-1300 series dimensions almost perectly.

Thank you' and will do.

Anybody put Vista on their M1300 yet ? And if so how is it doing, being that the video card in the M1300 is up to par for Vista.