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imranq2
04-29-2003, 03:00 PM
Tablet PC is very cool. But the application that people use most frequently is Internet Explorer. It is a pain to enter URLs in IE when in Tablet mode. I decided to improve that.

This free utility adds a toolbar in Internet Explorer that allows you to write URLs and search terms in ink instead of typing them in.

You can download from here: http://inkieaddressbar.tripod.com.

For v1, the feature list is locked. You can report bugs however that I will fix.

For v2, you can suggest feature ideas.

In order to manage this better, please use this forum for discussing both (i.e., reply to this topic). In a democratic fashion, ideas that a number of people express interest in will be added to v2.

of course, even if you have no ideas but just like the utility let me know so I have more incentive to improve it:-)

kelldani
04-29-2003, 03:28 PM
I have been using InkieAddress for a week and this is a very cool app!! The buttons are a little ugly but, it works every time. I would like to be able to assign the search. although I like google I also use some others. Great App.! cant wait for version 2. I would catagorize this app as a must have![unworthy]

Rod
04-29-2003, 06:57 PM
Love it.

It brings to mimd an off-topic question though - where is agood cheap(!) place to go to get graphics for buttons? Or does someone know someone who designs them?

fswitz
04-30-2003, 03:55 AM
Rod,

A google search for "gifs" will bring up a whole list of graphic libraries. Many are free and can be easily used as background images on buttons etc.

Imraq2,

Congrats on v1. Picking it up and bringing it to the community is what will make Tablets successful.

imranq2
04-30-2003, 06:18 AM
yep, the ugly buttons are on the list to be fixed in v2.0 :-)

since i'll have to change how buttons are drawn it may unstabilize the v1 release so i'm doing that work in v2 (which i'm doing in parallel). i'm working on making the buttons look more like the other toolbar buttons in IE.

akelley
04-30-2003, 06:31 AM
I installed it on my Motion M1200 and find that it does not recognize most URLS I write in (I have pretty good hand writing). I wonder if using a Factoid of common URLs, would aid in its recognition accuracy? I've seen some apps that do this (drug names, in particular, for medical apps). It would be neat if the app somehow read in the URLs of your Favorites and history, to create this Factoid, or even on the fly!

Other than that I think it's a great start. Keep up the good work!

imranq2
04-30-2003, 09:37 AM
if your URLs are of the form: www.tabletpc.com, try just writing in "tabletpc". my code automatically adds "www." and ".com" if needed. The WinXp recognition engine sometimes has an easier time with this.

also don't write the "http://" part since that is unnecessary.

click on the "?" in the toolbar to see all the ways to enter text into the toolbar.

populating the list with the items in your favorites and history list is a good idea. i'll try it out in v2 to see if it improves recognition.

btw, i've already set the WEB factoid so the recognition of URLs should be better than in the TabletInputPanel.

serchend
05-01-2003, 01:42 AM
Love the Applet... Just one sugestion, Strip all the spaces from the translated text. Thank you for the much needed plugin.

Dennis Rice
05-01-2003, 03:50 AM
imran,

Thanks for this effort so far, works nicely. [thumbsup] Here is my input and a couple suggestions:

1. I agree with the need for button updates of course...

2. I would really love to see this toolbar "autohide", or appear at a click, but I understand that as a toolbar, this may be a bit difficult. I'd also like to have it show up on the bottom of the screen or as a taskbar toolbar as well. What I did do was take the text address bar off of the IE interface, and add it to the taskbar so I could reduce the amount of space they took up collectively. However, in portrait mode, the taskbar is too small to make this work well.

3. I tried to move it around to a different location in the toolbar space, and it ended up shrinking to the same size as the text address bar when I moved it back to the bottom, which is of course too small to write in. I could move it back up a level and it would grow, but I had to manually resize it to get to large size when on the bottom(which was pretty cool anyway, you can make it as big as you would like!). May be a little bug there somewhere ...

4. I tried to enter a .org address "map.org" without www, and it would not translate into the "www.map.org", I had to write it out. Same thing with a ".net" address. Just thought I'd mention it since if you have the code already worked out for .com, might not be too tough to do the others as well (easy for me to say, huh?[borg])

5. I had a problem with the pen "dot" turning into an I beam cursor a couple of times. I could still write in the Inkie bar, but missed my "dot". It happenned to me twice, and I tried to recreate what caused it, but no luck. I'll let you know if I figure it out!

Despite these small issues though, I like it a lot! [thumbsup] Keep coding, great job!

andriesse
05-01-2003, 08:19 PM
Hey Imrang2,

I Love the toolbar. Really a KILLER APP!!! Thanks a lot for making it available!

I've noticed a couple of things: Firstly I live in the netherlands, which means I visit a lot of .nl sites. It's probably my handwriting because you use the standard INK engine, but more often than not ".nl" is recognised as ".ne". You probably can't help this, but I thought i'd let you know.
The other thing is that sometimes (rarely) the pointer which is an arrow on the page and a small dot on the toolbar, changed into a vertical stripe (like in MSWord) on the toolbar in stead of a small dot. I will investigate a bit more to see exactly when this happenes...

BUT OVERALL LOVING IT!!!

Regards

Dennis Rice
05-02-2003, 01:59 AM
Another quick "beta note":

When I have recognized text in the inkie ink space and use the TIP keyboard to edit an address that was incorrectly recognized, the backspace key on the TIP keyboard won't work. I have to use arrow keys to position cursor, then hit delete key. Curious, but true!

Just as a general note, it would also be nice to be able to type (not just correct) text into the ink space as well, then we would not need the regular address bar at all.....

Thanks!

koo
05-03-2003, 04:18 PM
Hi!

Since I am living in China I cannot access tripod.com. Would it be possible to upload the software on a different server where I could access it?
Thanks
Fred

PStork
05-04-2003, 02:15 AM
Adding a writing line just above the bottom would be a nice touch. As it is I'm not sure whether to write on the bottom or Floating in the middle. At least in the TIP it seems that recognition improves based on placement in the window (above, below, or On the line).

Paul Stork

imranq2
05-05-2003, 08:29 PM
keep the suggestions coming. btw, i will be on vacation for a couple of weeks but will start implementing the suggestions that are posted here after i come back.

aliu
05-06-2003, 08:37 AM
After a two system restores it all seems to work - even with the locales changed. Odd. Anyway, it is working very well now!

Also, even when using the WEB factoid, it would be useful to include a list of more commonly used sites, so they get recognized easily - in particular those that probably won't be in the dictionary (e.g. Google)

See this for example:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/tpcsdk10/html/whitepapers/designguide/tbconusingdictionarieswiththeapis.asp

Old post:

quote:Unfortunately it does not work for me. Anyone else couldn't get the ink bar to work?

The writing pad on the ink bar appears to be white, and the cursor stays as an arrow (instead of a dot). Writing on it does not put ink on it.

I'm also one of those people whose tablet calculator powertoy does not work.

My locale is set to English (Australia). Does anyone have a solution?

markpayton
05-08-2003, 02:52 AM
Fred,

Since Imran is on vacation, I would be glad to email the zip file to you if you want to give me your email address.

Mark

boagworld
05-08-2003, 10:13 AM
Great little app thanks. As has already been said, the buttons ane not the most attractive in the world. i am a graphic designer so if you email me i would happily put some together for you.

theprophe
07-05-2003, 11:32 AM
I haven't had to a chance to use the program yet, but eagerly awaitng my tablet to try. One suggestion, if its not already in, It would be nice if you had say 4 other little buttons to press for "net","org","edu","gov" and maybe 2 or 3 programable by the user for country codes or new endings like "ca",de",biz" or whatefver you wanted, otherwise nice handy utility for tablet browsing, thanks

theministryofsillywalks
07-06-2003, 01:52 AM
How about a gesture for frequently used terms. One for

http://

one for

http://www.

one for

.com

stuff like that. And the ability to have 1 user definable one. So the gesture is fixed but the suffix it produces is user defined. For example, being in the UK, you would customise it to .co.uk or if you're in canada you'd make it .ca just an idea.

EDIT: Kind of like the previous post but with gestures instead of buttons.

Trev
07-06-2003, 05:50 AM
http:// and www. are automatically added in.

For example I wrote in ebay and hit go and it went to http://www.ebay.com

Gestures for various suffixes would be useful though.

imranq2
07-07-2003, 09:57 AM
I’ve been busy with my real job so this took longer than I would have liked. anyway, v2 of the InkIE is now available:

http://inkieaddressbar.tripod.com

the biggest change is the switch to nicer looking buttons (yay!)

some miscellaneous bug fixes include:
- you can now click on the edit field with your mouse and type in using the keyboard (ENTER key also now navigates). so you can just hide the browser url bar and use this one exclusively.
- backspace works
- button on toolbar (“ink”) to hide & show the inkie toolbar.

let me know what you guys think…

re: the requests for .net, .biz etc, i'm working on implementing a mechanism so if your navigation fails it tries a number of extensions to see if anything else would succeed.

-imran

Trev
07-07-2003, 06:18 PM
Fantastic. I've found the version2 to work very nicely. If I didn't know better, I would confuse it as being built in to IE by MS. Great work! [thumbsup]

smoussa
07-09-2003, 12:02 AM
so far it's working very well, thanks for the great app

gordo
07-09-2003, 11:24 AM
I am interested in this application, and think it is a wonderful idea. I have a few questions about it, before I install. I currently have an Address tool bar and Links tool bar that I placed at the top of my desktop. I have the “Auto-Hide” option on so it doesn’t take any screen space.

1) If I install this application is it listed on the Tool Bars sub-menu accessed by a right-click on the IE Tool bars?
2) Does it support the “Auto-Hide” option?

Thanks Gordo

imranq2
07-09-2003, 11:49 AM
hi Gordo,
#1 = yes. this toolbar is really just another IE toolbar so you can hide it, resize it, move it etc. only thing you can't do is choose which buttons are on it. (working on this for v3)
#2 = not yet. i assume you mean having the address toolbar on your desktop when IE is not open. i'm working on this in my v3 code.

btw, you can always uninstall it from add/remove in the control panel (just like you uninstall other programs).

Spencer_Barnes
07-09-2003, 01:58 PM
I'm using InkIEbar in place of the address bar. One thing I've noticed is that when I write an address in the ink bar, it disappears after go is pressed. Is this by design? I sometimes need to navigate by editing the current URL.

imranq2
07-09-2003, 03:36 PM
yeah "by design". i actively clear it out after you hit Go or Search since it is kind of hard for people to clear it out with the pen. as you pointed out this causes a problem when typing in URLs. so guess i have to come up with another solution for this.

i'm thinking maybe i select all the text after you click Go. then you can edit with the keyboard or if you start writing it will clear your selection.
i'm open to other suggestions...
it would be harder to detect if you typed in or wrote since you can do a mix.

Spencer_Barnes
07-10-2003, 02:33 AM
quote:Originally posted by imranq2

yeah "by design". i actively clear it out after you hit Go or Search since it is kind of hard for people to clear it out with the pen. as you pointed out this causes a problem when typing in URLs. so guess i have to come up with another solution for this.

i'm thinking maybe i select all the text after you click Go. then you can edit with the keyboard or if you start writing it will clear your selection.
i'm open to other suggestions...
it would be harder to detect if you typed in or wrote since you can do a mix.



Leaving it selected would probably he easiest. The other methods I can see off hand would be

i) a select all button if left displayed
ii) a select all gesture (probably impractical)
iii) a recall last button
iv) a recall last gesture (probably impractical)

If I didn't mention it in my initial post, I thing its a terrific app, and its filled in a specific niche very well. It also seems pretty un-bustable.

"Triple-click" does select all, after recognition but before "go", but getting the timing right takes practice.

Spencer
07-10-2003, 04:59 AM
I agree, leaving the address in there is about the only thing that I wish was in this app. If I had that I would be able to close the original address bar for good. The thing is though, would the address in the InkIE update when you click a link? I use that functionality alot when posting news items, and just generally sending links to people. When that happens I open the regular address bar in order to copy my current URL.

Overall though, great application. Keep up the good work Imran.[8D]

imranq2
07-14-2003, 03:36 PM
so i now have version 3.0 of this ready.

New features since v2.0:
1. an "autocorrect" mechanism that uses your browser history list. so web sites you've been to are recognized much much better.
2. now you can have inkie just show up on your desktop without running IE. so you can always have it and write addresses to go to.
3. it listens to IE to see when the page in the browser has changed and updates the text in inkie.
4. leaves the text in the edit field so you can fix typos etc.

before i release it to everyone i want to have 5 people beta-test it for a few days. if you are interested in being one of these people, send me mail. i ask that you play with it for 2 days and then send me an email with how the recognition works and of course any bugs.

imranq2@hotmail.com

Trev
07-14-2003, 05:23 PM
Will it also look at your favorites? I have history turned off. I'd turn it back on if it meant a big improvement in recognition though.

hotweiss
07-30-2003, 11:56 PM
Awesome app![thumbsup][thumbsup][thumbsup]

imranq2
08-06-2003, 08:01 AM
v3 is now available for wider beta. thanks to the following people for offering suggestions/bugs in limited beta:
1. Spencer Barnes
2. Mark Payton
3. Trevor Claiborne

New features since v2.0:
1. an "autocorrect" mechanism that uses your browser history and favorites list. so web sites you've been to are recognized much much better. (uses a background thread so does not slow down the launch of your browser)
2. now you can have inkie toolbar show up on your desktop without running IE. so you can always have it and write addresses to go to. you can dock it to the top of your desktop so you always have it.
3. it listens to IE to see when the page in the browser has changed and updates the text in it.
4. leaves the text in the edit field so you can fix typos etc.
support intranet URLs.
5. you can copy and paste from the edit field. (using ctrl-c & ctrl-v). haven't implemented the right-click menu yet.

http://inkieaddressbar.tripod.com/beta

as usual please report bugs so the rest of the users get the benefit of bug fixes.

-imran

Trev
08-06-2003, 10:43 AM
imran,
the bugs I mentioned seem to be pretty much ironed out. It's still a little finicky to write in corrections, but at least it's now possible. Keep up the good work. [thumbsup]

imranq2
08-06-2003, 10:56 AM
trevor, glad to hear your bugs have been ironed out. how would you suggest the "finickyness" in corrections can be improved?

Pepper
08-07-2003, 03:32 PM
I like the program! Keep up the great work!

-Pepper

Mrdecav
08-12-2003, 04:04 PM
quote:Originally posted by Rod

Love it.

It brings to mimd an off-topic question though - where is agood cheap(!) place to go to get graphics for buttons? Or does someone know someone who designs them?


Searches online, the Microsoft DLLs or make them yourself (thats what I usually do). . .

Mrdecav
08-12-2003, 04:23 PM
quote:Originally posted by imranq2


trevor, glad to hear your bugs have been ironed out. how would you suggest the "finickyness" in corrections can be improved?



I would suggest that when you tap somewhere, it would open the spot between the letters up (I don't know if this is possible w/ the API's Windows gives you, as I've never developed a tablet program).

Example:
Lets say I write in "ebay" and want to make "ebay" become "electronicbay"
I tap in between the E and B and it opens up some white space I can write in, then recognizes it as one word when I hit the go button.

Just an idea, great app!!! - I plan on downloading it as soon as my tablet comes (Thursday. . . cant wait. . .)

PatrickC
08-13-2003, 02:32 PM
Excellent app ..... what are the chances of a version that works with Opera?

Trev
08-13-2003, 02:39 PM
imran,
The finicky thing is that say I write something in and it messes it up. For example I wrote in beta.homelan

The hwr nailed it, but then autocorrected to something completely wrong beta.homdamo.

The other finicky thing is if I want to correct something. Say I write in bluesnews and I get bluwnewr. I correct letter by letter, but after each letter it highlights the whole thing again and I have to go back in and click few times add the next letter.

hotweiss
08-13-2003, 02:54 PM
I'm having the same problem as Trev...

Trev
08-14-2003, 07:35 AM
I am also having a wicked hard time getting periods to come through.

markpayton
08-14-2003, 07:45 AM
It may just be related to configuration changes on my system, Imran, but performance seems fairly sluggish with this version. Also, I still lose the first stroke when I start writing.

Mark

imranq2
08-14-2003, 11:01 AM
Trev,
can you check the version number you are running to make sure you have the official beta build and not the one i sent you earlier? the highlight issue was fixed in the official beta build (v 3.0.4). to check click on the "?".

also this build had a fix so if the original recognition was found in your history/favorites list and the new one was not than it uses the old one. this may resolve your issue with beta.homelan above if beta.homelan is in your history list.

writing a period is still an issue. i'm looking into it how the recognition of a period can be made better.

imranq2
08-14-2003, 11:44 AM
replies to some folks:

Mrdecav - you can do this. just click where you want the text and then write on top of the text. when you're done, it inserts the text at the insertion point.
PatrickC - don't know much about Opera. if it supports browser extensions same as Internet Explorer than it would work. otherwise you can just put InkIE on the desktop - however, currently i've coded it to open up Internet Explorer. there isn't a reason why i couldn't read your default browser setting and use that. will look into for v4.
markpayton - can you specify the kind of sluggishness you're seeing. is it on launching the browser, is it the time between you write something and it is recognized, time b/w the text is autocorrected, time between you writing and the handwriting showing up on the screen (before it is converted) etc etc.

markpayton
08-14-2003, 12:17 PM
Imran,

There is an 8-10 second delay between the time I write something and the time it is recognized. I did see that I'm running 3.0.3, so I'll download the latest version and see if that changes things.

Mark

imranq2
08-14-2003, 12:24 PM
Mark,
if you go to your Tablet PC Input Panel. click Tools->Options. look at the "Automatic text insertion" slider. what value is it on (approximately)?

-i

Trev
08-14-2003, 02:36 PM
3.03 downloading the new one now.

markpayton
08-15-2003, 03:47 AM
Imran,

Just under three clicks up from .25 seconds. I'd guess it to be about 2 seconds before the handwriting clears, just under 3 before the text appears in an application.

Mark

PatrickC
08-15-2003, 08:57 AM
Imran,

Thanks for that, I'll try putting it on the desktop & let you know how it goes.

I suppose it's not just Opera - I use it because I like it, but I don't have any problem with IE if I have to use it. I just prefer to have flexibility in the client I use, and it strikes me that a "lean & mean" browser is a good thing on a tablet. Being able to switch InkIE to whatever browser I'm using at the time would be nice ...:D

ZaG
08-15-2003, 10:33 AM
Very nice work. It really works well for me. The only thing that would Make this better for me is if I could put it in a mode where it doesn't add www and dotcom to URLs because I browse to a lot of intranet sites at work and they are just single word URLs. If there was a button to turn that feature off or something. of course I don't know how many people would need this besides me so it might be a waste of time!

keep up the good work!

AUB
08-18-2003, 12:40 PM
I see a long delay every time I hit "go" without waiting for my handwriting to be recognized. The toolbar locks up for 20-30 seconds.

Otherwise, a great tool, it finally replaced my address bar, and I don't have to search thru favorites ever again!

Thanks
- A.U.B.

PatrickC
08-19-2003, 01:11 AM
Imran,

I tried it with Opera - no luck. Every time I hit go it fed the URL straight to IE, even though Opera was set to be the default browser. Which is more or less what I expected from your comment ....

I guess I'm going to have to be religious about bookmark management.

eagle9406
08-19-2003, 02:56 AM
how about an option to customize the buttons, I don't really need an about button. great app. how about the cross out gesture that sticky notes has?

markpayton
08-20-2003, 02:03 AM
PatrickC,

I just ran across MyIE2, a lite alternative to IE today. I haven't downloaded it, but when I read it I thought of this thread and your comments about a lean and mean browser for Tablets. It's based on the IE engine, so I wonder if InkIE would run on it. Here's the blurb from MajorGeeks:

http://66.98.158.200/download.php?det=1244

Hope this is helpful.

Mark

bblank
09-24-2003, 01:56 AM
I have 1 bug and 1 suggestion to report:

BUG
---
When IE first starts, I have it configured to load the blank page (about:blank) - I'm not sure if this is related to the problem or not. Anyway, I write a quick work in the InkIE bar and click the "Go" button before it has time to recognize the text. IE appears to hang and is locked. I must right click IE in the task bar, click close, and then a prompt comes up saying that IE is not responding and asking if I want to force it closed. I say yes and wait about another 15 seconds for it to close. I am running an Acer C110 Tablet PC.

SUGGESTION
----------
When I write a word on the InkIE, it defaults to enclose that word in "www."_____".com". What if I am trying to reach a ".NET" or ".ORG" or ".GOV" or ".EDU", etc... I would like to see a drop down so that I can configure the extension for the next click of the Go button. The most common extensions should appear on top or the drop down list, followed by an alphebetical listing of all of the country extensions.

Otherwise, this is a great piece of software.

Thanks,
Brian

EinsteinTech
09-24-2003, 03:44 AM
How about breaking it up into 3 boxes. 1) prefix 2) domain 3) extension



[www ] . [einsteinware ] . [com ]


You can use wordlists for 1 and 3 so that it gets www and com/net/org/etc.

PeteW
09-24-2003, 04:47 AM
I really like the idea Apokalips has. The three box idea would provide the most flexibility I think.

Also I use MyIE2 for all my surfing and it does support regular IE plugins. My tablet ships on Wed. I'll let you all know if it works with the Ink Bar.

PatrickC
09-24-2003, 05:30 AM
Mark, just spotted your post about MyIE2, thanks for the suggestion, I'll try it out.

God knows how I missed it the first time round, must be getting old ....

PeteW
10-01-2003, 02:33 PM
Just a quick update, I got my tablet early and tried InkIE with MyIE2. The button shows up in the "pluggin toolbar", but it does nothing.

Is there any chance someone could work on this?

imranq2
10-01-2003, 03:15 PM
pete,
have you tried these steps:
http://www.myie2info.com/faq/index.php?sid=7175&aktion=artikel&rubrik=002&id=7&lang=en

PeteW
10-01-2003, 06:02 PM
imran-
I tried all that, but it only makes the button show in the plugin toolbar
clicking it does nothing
I checked and the goggle bar and a list of other tool bars work with it the list is at http://www.myie2.com/html_en/download.htm and click on the plains tab

The SDK pack for MyIe2 is at http://www.myie2.com/files/sdk.zip

Thanks for anyhelp
Pete

Quinny
10-02-2003, 11:33 PM
Installed on TC1000 and will not go at all. Any ideas [?] Just get vertical line like it's ready for typed input [cry]

imranq2
10-03-2003, 06:40 AM
Quinny,
to clarify you are using this in Internet Explorer and not MyIE2?
also are you using the pen to write and not the keyboard?
did you try to write with the pen and what result did you get?
go to the ? button and check the version and let me know.

Quinny
10-03-2003, 07:31 AM
quote:Originally posted by imranq2


Quinny,
to clarify you are using this in Internet Explorer and not MyIE2?
also are you using the pen to write and not the keyboard?
did you try to write with the pen and what result did you get?
go to the ? button and check the version and let me know.


- IE ver 6.0.2800 etc (sbe latest)
- Pen - nothing just a line like it wants text (if try write changes between line and arrow)
- Inkie ver 3.0.4 (d/l yesterday)

Ta as I really want this to go as it is my one big issue with my tablet.

Other info incase -Compaq TC1000, 756 ram, some upgrades but not check all in, all Win Update stuff in but Net framework, Jet, and some I do not think tablet needs)

Hope that helps.

imranq2
10-03-2003, 07:50 AM
what locale is your Windows set to? try changing it to English-United States to see if that works.
Control Panel->Regional and Language Options.

if that doesn't help, see the post by aliu on the first page of this discussion. he had similar problems and they seem to be due to his Windows install.

Quinny
10-03-2003, 10:28 AM
quote:Originally posted by imranq2


what locale is your Windows set to? try changing it to English-United States to see if that works.
Control Panel->Regional and Language Options.

if that doesn't help, see the post by aliu on the first page of this discussion. he had similar problems and they seem to be due to his Windows install.

Quinny
10-03-2003, 10:36 AM
[quote]Originally posted by imranq2


what locale is your Windows set to? try changing it to English-United States to see if that works.
Control Panel->Regional and Language Options.
[quote]

Sorry about above. Did a preview and accidentally deleted my reply cos not logged in.

Anyway thanks heaps as it has fixed the problem. I had not picked that reply on the first page (should have as we both have non english as the main langauge). NZ like Aussie is Uk style english ie colour not color. So while I will now get more spelling errors this app is far more useful.

Hopefully it is a bug that can be fixed in a later release.

BTW changing the location only did not fix. I had to change location, language, dictionary everything in regional then it worked.

Will play and see if I can find exactally which setting is causing the problem. Again a huge thanks for your help:D

imranq2
10-14-2003, 03:03 PM
the wider beta of v4 is now available. folks have been using this for a couple of weeks but if you tend to be wary of new software you may want to wait a few weeks.

the coolest feature is that you can now write in edit fields on any web page. so now you have the full solution of using Internet Explorer without ever having to type.

other features include:
Allow users to choose whether to automatically append "www." and ".com"
Allow customization of recognition interval
use default browser so you can use it this tool on the desktop to launch Netscape or Opera.

http://inkieaddressbar.tripod.com/beta

Wcrocker
10-14-2003, 04:29 PM
Like the changes a lot . One strange thing though. Under the via menu when selecting toolbars the inkie selection and the google selection seem to be switched. If I select the goggle toolbar I get the inkie bar. Intriguingly if I select the inkie toolbar

Wcrocker
10-14-2003, 04:43 PM
Don't know what happened on the last post. What I was trying to say was that intriguingly I have to select the google toolbar to see the inkie toolbar.

markpayton
10-18-2003, 09:37 AM
Imran,

I ran across an issue you should know about if you don't already. If you select File/New Window from the menu, the inkie settings in the new window revert to all unchecked. The checked settings in the original window remain as they were.

Mark

imranq2
10-19-2003, 06:28 AM
thanks for reporting it mark. i will look into it.

markpayton
10-28-2003, 04:16 AM
Imran,

I'm seeing another peculiar behavior that is occurring on both tablets I'm using to test. Frequently, when I click on a widget in a web page (a link, a button, whatever) it requires a second click before the action is performed. This appears to occur whether or not I have the InkOverlay on the web page turned on. In fact on one machine, I had to uninstall inkie to get the behavior to stop.

Mark

chris_pc01
10-29-2003, 10:32 AM
Imran,

First, let me say, "very cool app".

Now, the problem. I removed version 3 (which works fine) and downloaded the version 4 beta. With version 4 on my machine, everytime I go to open IE, there's an error, Microsoft wants to know about it, and then the window closes. (I had to take v4 off to get IE back). I haven't seen anyone else say anything about this, so it may just be me.

chris

Afterimage
10-30-2003, 06:36 AM
Now v4 seems to be gone entirely. :( Where's imran?

imranq2
10-30-2003, 07:08 AM
i'm still here. been busy with work at my "real" job. can you explain what you mean by it is "gone"?

Griz8791
10-30-2003, 09:07 AM
Imran:

I also had the problem Chris is having with version 4: Internet Explorer would not function at all. I uninstalled it and went back to version 3 to await further developments.

I like InkIE and appreciate your efforts so much I can hardly bring myself to complain, but now that somebody else has broken the ice I thought it made sense to let you know it isn't a one-off problem.

imranq2
10-30-2003, 09:54 AM
chris or Griz8791, can you email me the exact repro steps? i have been unable to reproduce this.

PeteW
10-31-2003, 04:32 AM
I never unistalled version, just installed v4 over the top of the old one and have had no problems at all with it.

Don't know if that helps any...

Griz8791
10-31-2003, 09:58 AM
Imran:

I re-downloaded and re-installed version 4 last night. Now it works. Maybe the previous download was corrupted somehow? Anyway, all's well that ends well . . .

SFisher
11-27-2003, 03:10 PM
Awesome App. Great Job!

kalex
11-30-2003, 01:34 PM
i just installed the version 3 and on top version 4. inkoverlay doesn't work properly. if i disable inkoverlay, app works great. however as soon as i enable it and click into the text area ( i tried to login to this page) ie generates and error message in inkie.dll and shutsdown. any ideas?

thanks


alex

Afterimage
12-14-2003, 08:20 AM
Every time I have InkIE enabled with the ink overlay on web pages, it crashes when I try to shut down IE.

Also, if you're going to allow us to actually write in the field with our handwriting, it'd be nice if it was expanded a bit somehow. Those little fields are too small! :)

manekineko
03-03-2004, 07:47 PM
Nice program, very handy!

I have some requests, though I see it hasn't been updated a while so maybe this isn't going to happen. I'm surprised no one has mentioned these yet as they seem very basic.

I notice Inkie doesn't like to get smaller than a certain size. I like to have Inkie on the same line as some other stuff, so that it doesn't take up too much screen space, but if I do that, when I convert my tablet to tablet mode with its narrower screen, inkie refuses to get any smaller the way the regular address bar does, and swallows up the surrounding stuff, which is willing to get smaller.

It would be also nice to have some more customizability with regards to what to show. It'd be nice to be able to disable searching and/or hide the search icon, as well as the about icon and the word inkie. I know that you probably like to have the name of the app show to show it off a bit, but the horizontal screen space in tablet mode is really precious, and if I could shrink it be those 3 large icon sizes, that'd be great.

Also, I can confirm that if I write something and then tell it to go before its recognized, it gets very unhappy and slow.

Lastly, would it be possible to add eraser support? There's no way presently to get rid of stray ink marks, and erasing recognized text is incredibly painful unless I'm missing something? There doesn't seem to be an easy way to select all, so I have to draw a left moving backspace as many times as I want to backspace. And if I mess up even slightly in doing this, then there are ink strokes on the Inkie bar, and I have to wait for them to be recognized and insert junk into the bar since there's no way to eraser the ink strokes, and then I have to erase not only what I had before but also the additional junk.

Don't take these negatively, it's a great program you've got, and I hope my constructive criticism could help make it better.

markpayton
03-04-2004, 12:02 AM
You can erase all of the contenst of inkie by drawing a right-ward horizontal line. Left-ward translates as a backspace. Because the line erase leaves a single blank space, you actually have to do right then left to completely clear the box.

Mark

Song
03-04-2004, 06:58 AM
I can't seem to access the website to download the program at all.
Is the site dead now? Maybe it's just experiencing a server downtime.

imranq2
03-04-2004, 07:13 AM
sorry, i've been really busy at work and home... :-( these days i don't have much time to work on this. if another developer is interested in helping improve this, i can share my code with them. hopefully with a more community approach, this tool will get better.

Song
03-04-2004, 08:32 AM
Can you at least make the program available?

imranq2
03-04-2004, 08:58 AM
the released version is here: http://inkieaddressbar.tripod.com/

the beta version is here: http://inkieaddressbar.tripod.com/beta/

Song
03-04-2004, 09:00 AM
Thanks, but the links don't work right now for some reason.

markpayton
03-05-2004, 04:38 AM
The links are up at this time.

Mark

mtbaldwin
05-16-2004, 03:31 AM
Great app! Thanks for all your work. The only request I have is adding the icon to drag to the favorites bar. Especially when the pen makes using this feature so easy. Then I could dump the regular address bar. This app was a great idea!

stephenwallace
09-27-2004, 10:40 AM
this is an outstanding plugin - thank you. Any Chance of a version for Mozilla?