Just saw this on the TMTA message board. Looks

[GregS]

Just saw this on the TMTA message board. Looks like HP just posted an update to the Transmeta Code Morphing Software (CMS) that speeds boot and application launch times! Anybody try it yet?

http://h18007.www1.hp.com/support/files/compaqtabletpc/us/download/17391.html

[Steverock]

It speeds up loading of apps. No great change in boot up.

[Steverock]

It speeds up loading of apps. No great change in boot up.

[mrose]

quote:Originally posted by GregS

Just saw this on the TMTA message board. Looks like HP just posted an update to the Transmeta Code Morphing Software (CMS) that speeds boot and application launch times! Anybody try it yet?

http://h18007.www1.hp.com/support/files/compaqtabletpc/us/download/17391.html



Speed things up??? Hmmm not sure about that yet... but...

So far my USB devices connected to the Docking Station have stopped dropping off!!!!!:D

Could this have been it? A problem with the translation software??? I had the TC1000 running at 100% load, fan on full speed, Fish screen saver running... and not one USB device connected to the Docking station has dropped off so far!!! I'll let it run at 100% load tonight and see if I here any 'bing-bong' sounds during the night, but so far so good!!!!

[TMetzinger]

be sure and do the tour-ture test before deciding the USB problem is fixed by this code.

I'll download tomorrow and test as well.

-Tim

[mrose]

quote:Originally posted by TMetzinger

be sure and do the tour-ture test before deciding the USB problem is fixed by this code.

I'll download tomorrow and test as well.

-Tim


Tour-ture test still killed it! Argh!!!!

Well, at least it is better otherwise. What the heck is up with the Tour program??? Does any other Macromedia Director files kill the machine like that one does???

[Carlitos Way]

Here's what I've experienced:



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I have upgraded my 256 with 512MB Crucial memory.
We'll see how the CMS patch work in "real life".. Aside from my regular stuff,I have to give a ppt presentation tomorrow- will keep you posted...

Carlos[thumbsup]

[grnbrg]

It seems that the CMS patch has really improved the launch time. Word pops up quickly now.

[mrose]

Whoa! This is something I didn't expect! I had complained previously the some of the Stardock software that I had was not working right on the Tablet PC. One thing I noticed was WindowFX was terrible slow. Well, now I can enable all those 'Aqua', genie-like effects. I thought that WindowFX was too much for the Geforce2go... I guess the CPU was the bottleneck afterall because with the new Translation software the special 'FX' is MUCH smoother now!

I am running the latest Windowsblinds Alpha 3.9G and WindowFX 2.0. My desktop is in 16 bit color, I have a fancy Windowblind skin, Animated windows, and drop shadows under everything. It seems just as fast as running with the Windows XP Theme/skinning system off! It is very responsive now!

The little bit of extra eye candy is pretty nifty too (...as if just seeing the TC1000 wasn't impressive enough before!)

[Rod]

1. Bootup time - didn't notice a difference.

2. Application loading time - good improvement

3. But where the biggest difference is, it seems to me, is in the Transmeta special area, so to speak, of launching the same app a second and subsequent time - an absolutely blistering speed increase there!

Quickest, easiest, most trouble free, most effective and cheapest speed upgrade I ever made!!

Rod

[bketelsen]

Agreed. Reloading is much improved, as is general "multitasking" feel. I'm running lots of apps right now and it task switches quite a bit zippier than it did before. Hooray!

[yaobin]

:DLoading speed is noticable faster.

Thank you!!!!!

[MooseMaster]

The improvement in battery life could just be a side-effect of the CPU not having to work so hard to load and switch tasks and thus allows it to run in a slower speed more often.

After all, isn't loading applications faster saving battery life? More time working, less time waiting.

[OldManTod]

As always, you guys rule... Thanks for the heads up on this...

I would have to agree with Rod, I did notice a "re-open" improvement, haven't notice much else yet (I typically turn my machine on and go get water, then login and do something else so I am not tempted to rush things)..

Good Job!!

OMT

[ajshapiro]

I have found that it speeds up launches even on the 1st launch and in particular gets rid of a lot of strange behavior on launching. For instance, I have an Outlook add-in that filters spam that starts when Outlook starts. Before this upgrade, the screen would freak out during launch (ie, graphics would be all screwed up) and it would take a long time to complete. Now, it launches faster and the screen updating is normal.

This hasn't fixed the dropped mouse/keyboard USB connections for me though.

[zipmail]

It has improved quite substantially for me too. While it was 'bearable' before, now it is quite snappy. Tablet Planner 2.0 starts up much faster (but that could be because it's 2.0).

I also noticed word recognition has improved.

[acronym]

does anyone use sisoft sandra for benchmarking? I've returned my tc1000 due to its (IMO) unbearable sluggishness. Here were my unpatched scores:
memory ? ram integer : 369 ram float : 376
cpu arithmetic ?dhry 1858 whet 643
cpu multimedia ? integer 1274 float 448

[paradoxicalcat]

vroooom!! This CMS update is sweet!!
This and the hibernation fix have put me into a state of PURE Bliss

[lecco]

I've also notice very noticable improvement when launching apps the second time. also boot up time--well I didn't time it, but judging from the startup display how many times the moving indicator has complete a cycle it seems like the screen is gone after 3 cycle instead of 6 to 8.

here's my question:
since CMS is some sort of flash memory residing in the tablet, it should mean that even when you do a compaq recovery restore the CMS would still retained it's updated state, correct?
And do you guys know where to check the version no. of the CMS?

[paradoxicalcat]

quote:Originally posted by lecco

I've also notice very noticable improvement when launching apps the second time. also boot up time--well I didn't time it, but judging from the startup display how many times the moving indicator has complete a cycle it seems like the screen is gone after 3 cycle instead of 6 to 8.

here's my question:
since CMS is some sort of flash memory residing in the tablet, it should mean that even when you do a compaq recovery restore the CMS would still retained it's updated state, correct?
And do you guys know where to check the version no. of the CMS?


CMS is not residing in flash memory, that would be too slow for it to be useful. CMS is located in RAM. That's why if you look at your RAM total, it will be 24MB less than what you have installed. 256MB would get listed as 232MB. That's also why when you shut off your computer, it goes bye-bye. I'm quite sure that transmeta could implement some sort of CMS file that gets saved to the Hard drive before you shut down, but for some reason they feel it's better to just start off clean.

I'm pretty sure that you can see what version of CMS you have by looking in the device manager. Look under Processor. I haven't checked yet though, so I can't say for sure.

[Steverock]

In light of this significant upgrade do you guys still recommend using the system cache and paging file tweaks?

[MooseMaster]

Use as many tweaks as you can, of course.

The CMS could not reside wholey in RAM alone, it would have to be on the hard drive or on a FlashROM chip, maybe even embedded in the CPU's core. As soon as power is shut down everything in RAM is completely erased. The only time that a computer is off and power is still flowing to RAM is during Standby mode. The Crusoe CPU uses 24MB's of RAM, but that is not where the code morphing software is stored. Just like any other program on your computer, when you run it it is sent to RAM for quick access, although it is stored on your hard disk drive or CDROM.

[skesler]

I loaded the patch last night from home, and immediately noticed an improvement. In particular, Journal opened significantly quicker--even the first time, and subsequent openings were even quicker.
Since arriving back at the office this morning, I re-connected my external keyboard and mouse to the docking station instead of the tablet, and--so far, and I'm still holding my breath!--I have not experienced the USB disconnect problem! I read earlier in this thread that it can still be induced by running the tour, but so far in my normal usage, I'm staying connected! So, maybe even if this isn't "the fix," it points the engineers in the right direction.
Right now, after weeks of frustration, I'm a happy camper!:D

[mrose]

quote:Originally posted by Steverock

In light of this significant upgrade do you guys still recommend using the system cache and paging file tweaks?


Yes! The have nothing to do with each other.

The CMS patch is specific to the TC1000, the other tweaks are XP (as well as NT/2000) related. They do not do the same thing, one is not a substitute for the other.

I am very happy with the CMS update. The Tablet was much quicker then stock configuartion after adding the RAM and turning off the swap drive and setting system cache to large. But now after the CMS update it is VERY snappy!

Now if they just would release a current version of the Detonator Drivers for the Geforce2Go....

[vibec]

well I did not have a good experience

after I installed CMS, it would only boot one in 5 times. It seems I had to clear the memory entirely (unplug the power and battery) for it to boot.

I have now done a system restore to get rid of it.

I wonder if anyone else has had a bad experience with it??

:-(

[Slate]

Vibec, did you install the patch with the power plugged in and the battery with more than 40% power, as Compaq says you must?

[Steverock]

mrose,
What do you mean when you say: setting system cache to large?
Thanks

[bloom]

Now I'm confused! Are you saying that you have to reinstall the update everytime you turn the computer off? When I installed last night I thought it sped things up a bit. Today it didn't seem as fast but I thought that might because I was working with my main 'puter.

Also, I did check the processor under device manager but see no reference to CMS.

[MooseMaster]

No, you don't have to install it every time. It's a kind of BIOS update.

... unless something is wrong, of course. :D

[mrose]

quote:Originally posted by Steverock

mrose,
What do you mean when you say: setting system cache to large?
Thanks


see this thread:
http://www.tabletpcbuzz.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1838

[paradoxicalcat]

quote:Originally posted by MooseMaster

Use as many tweaks as you can, of course.

The CMS could not reside wholey in RAM alone, it would have to be on the hard drive or on a FlashROM chip, maybe even embedded in the CPU's core. As soon as power is shut down everything in RAM is completely erased. The only time that a computer is off and power is still flowing to RAM is during Standby mode. The Crusoe CPU uses 24MB's of RAM, but that is not where the code morphing software is stored. Just like any other program on your computer, when you run it it is sent to RAM for quick access, although it is stored on your hard disk drive or CDROM.


Yes, right...sorry...of course I am referring to the "CMS Cache", not the code morphing software itself, that must be stored outside of memory...It could, of course, be stored non-volatally and then be copied onto the 24MB of memory during bootup, but this is pure speculation, and only the keepers of the "trade secrets" probably truly know.

[paradoxicalcat]

quote:Originally posted by vibec

well I did not have a good experience

after I installed CMS, it would only boot one in 5 times. It seems I had to clear the memory entirely (unplug the power and battery) for it to boot.

I have now done a system restore to get rid of it.

I wonder if anyone else has had a bad experience with it??

:-(

Given the discussion about how the CMS is in no way connected to XP, I'm curious of whether this fixed your situation. If the CMS install went "bad", would a system restore from the restore CD's even help?

[vibec]

RE: system crashing after CMS update

People are right when they say that CMS has nothing to do with windows XP because after i installed the CMS patch, I could not even boot to dos to reinstall the system!!!

the system would hang right after the bios sets up and does not even boot from the active restore disk.

I found out (after a lot of swearing) that if I turned off all the power-mid boot- ie pulled out the power cord with the battery out, and then in the bios screen set the settings back to default then the next boot would work (note only one boot- if I shutdown and tried to reboot it would not work)- but only one boot which sort or confirms the theory that the CMS software stays in the ram until all the power is turned off. at which time, it would boot past the dos bits.

I fixed it by usuing system restore back to a previous image. I am going to reisntall the whole operating system soon.


note that i installed the patch with full batteries, plugged into the docking station. I also had a wireless keyboard, mouse and lan cable attached to the docking station but was not running programs at the time.

All i can say is, im going to wait a little more to see if it happens to anyone else before i try that again :(

[TMetzinger]

Both the CMS and the other (Video, Wireless) updates went fine for me.

-tim

[rwnewton]

Same here -- good upgrades. Robt

[PCFireman]

Same for me. No problems at all. I wonder If vibec's problems are due to it being docked during installation ?